Darakta Kurtis David Harder Karkace wani fim ne mai ban tsoro na rashin hankali game da ma'aurata masu jinsi guda waɗanda suka ƙaura daga babban birni zuwa ƙaramin gari tare da theirar matansu da ke raino. Duk da yake komai yana da kyau irin na abokantaka da kyakkyawan fata, akwai wani abu mai inuwa a ƙarƙashin farfajiyar. Ba za a rude shi ba Kankana: Daga Littafin Saw, Karkace ta magance wasu jigogi masu nauyi, magance liwadi, wariyar launin fata, da lafiyar hankali, duk ba tare da tabbatattun sharuɗɗa ba.

Kodayake Harder ne ke jagorantar, Karkace aka rubuta Colin Minihan (Haduwar Kabari, Abinda Yake Raka Maka Rai) da John Poliquin (Haduwa da Kabari 2). Kwanan nan na sami damar zama tare da Minihan da Poliquin don tattaunawa Karkace, kungiyoyin asiri, firgita masu ban tsoro, rayuwa a cikin shekarun 90, da ƙarshen ƙarshe.

Za ku iya karantawa Cikakken nazarin Waylon na Karkace, wanda ke gudana yanzu a kan Shudder.

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Kelly McNeely: Daga ina wannan rubutun ko wannan ra'ayin ya fito?

John Poliquin: Don haka tabbas ya zama martani ne ga zaɓen 2016 da maganganun rarrabuwar kawuna waɗanda Trump ke amfani da su, kuma kawai yadda ya kasance a bayyane yake a bayyane yake yadda ake ragin ɗan adam, a ƙarshe, don tayar da tushe. Kuma abin ban tsoro ne, kuma a bayyane yake ba wani abu bane wanda bai taɓa faruwa ba a tarihi, ka sani, muna sane da shi, amma yanzu yana nan, ba zamu iya watsi da shi ba.

Muna aiki ne a kan wasu dabaru, kuma muna kamar, riƙe, bari mu zo da wata dabara da ke ɗaukar waɗannan jigogi, sanya ruwan tabarau na ban tsoro a kanta, yana yin fim mai nishaɗi, amma kuma, yana da wani abu ka ce. Kuma wannan shine inda ya fito, da gaske. Har ila yau, ni dan wasa ne, kuma ni da Colin muna magana ne game da yin fim mai ban tsoro wanda ya dogara da allahntaka. Don haka muna son neman wani abu, kuma ina tsammanin kawai waɗannan ra'ayoyin guda biyu sun yi aure cikin kyakkyawar hanya mai ban sha'awa. Kuma don haka tabbas rayuwar tunanin kenan.

Kelly McNeely: Colin, tare da Abin da ke Sa ku Raye da kuma Karkace, wannan fim na ban tsoro na biyu da kuka aikata, wanda nake tsammanin yana da kyau, yana da mahimmanci a sami waɗancan labaran daga can. Ina so in bincika shawararku don bincika waɗannan labaran.

Colin Minihan: Ban sani ba idan zan zo da kowane labarin layi don wannan fim din yaushe Abin da ke Sa ku Raye yana da farkon farawa, amma ɗayan abubuwan da na ɗauka da gaske daga ƙwarewar Abin da ke Sa ku Raye yana ganin yadda al'ummomin kwata kwata suka rungumi juna kuma suka yi murnar ganin wakilci akan allon wanda ya ji da gaske na gaske kuma ba mai amfani dashi ta kowace hanya. Ka sani, ba a amfani da su don dariya ko komai. Kuma koyaushe ina irin tambayoyin kaina, lokacin da gidan wuta wani sutudiyo ne wanda zai yi fim mai ban tsoro wanda zai taurari maza yan luwadi biyu a cikin dangantaka don mu fara daidaitawa kawai ganin maza suna da jiki da ƙauna da juna. 

Ina tsammanin mutane da yawa - musamman ma abin da JP ke magana akai - mutanen da ke damuwa game da “wasu”. Ina tsammanin babban dalilin da ya sa suka rikice, kuma me ya sa suke saurin nunawa, kawai saboda ba su san shi ba, kuma ba su ga isa ba. Don haka, idan za mu iya ƙirƙirar haruffan tausayawa waɗanda ake bi da su kamar kowane ɗayan ma'aurata za a yi, a bayyane yake, a cikin [Karkace], ana bi da su daban-daban. Amma idan za mu iya kwatanta su a cikin wannan yanayin, to, ina tsammanin mun yi nasara, saboda muna daidaita wani abu da ya kamata ya zama al'ada ta yanzu. Ina tsammanin wannan ya kasance ainihin ƙarfin gaske ga son yin Karkace. Saboda babu su da yawa - Ina ganin akwai wasu da yawa da suka fara kirkirar watakila su fito, kana ganin shi kadan - fina-finan da ke bin irin wannan dangantakar a cibiyar, ba a matsayin makirci ba.

Kelly McNeely: Shin zaku iya yin magana kaɗan game da saiti Karkace a cikin shekarun 90 kuma menene ya yanke shawarar yin hakan, kuma, kasancewar hakan ya zama martani ga zaɓen 2016?

John Poliquin: Ina nufin, ya zama ma'ana don saita a cikin 90s. Ka sani, lokaci ne mai ɗan gaske ga jama'ar LGBT. Cutar ta AIDs ta lalata biranen ne, kuma akwai mummunan rauni a kusa da wannan, kuma yawancin masu ra'ayin mazan jiya suna amfani da shi ko kuma ba shi makamai a matsayin dalilin tsoron masu luwadi kuma, kun sani, cewa sun cancanci hakan. Kuma akwai mummunan halaye da yawa kuma kusan wannan, kamar, hujja don ɗaukarsu kamar dodanni, mutane masu ɓarna, musamman a ƙananan al'ummomi. Sannan kuma lokacin rashin aminci ne sosai kasancewa cikin karkara, a matsayin ɗan luwadi a cikin shekarun 90s.

Ka sani, akwai kisan Brandon Teena wanda aka sanya shi a fim, Samari basa Kuka, sannan kuma ka sani, Matthew Shepard, don haka akwai waɗannan manyan martaba, masu kisan gilla da ke faruwa, kuma ba da gaske suke samun babban kukan jama'a ba a lokacin. Yanzu sun zama wannan babban abu, amma a cikin 90s, ya kasance yana da yawa irin shara a ƙarƙashin kilishi kamar, “da kyau, sun cancanci hakan" yawancin halaye ne.

Don haka ina tsammanin kawai tare da waɗannan abubuwan a zuciya, kawai irin wannan lokacin ne kuma yana da ma'ana a gare mu mu saita fim ɗin a wurin. Kazalika, ina ganin, kadaici, ina tsammanin akwai wani abu game da kafafen sada zumunta na 90s wadanda suka samar da wannan yanayin da Malik zai kasance a ciki. Ba wai kawai ya kebe da jama'a ba ne, amma danginsa sun kebe shi, kuma bashi da wata alaƙa ta gaske a bayan gari. Don haka ina tsammanin duk waɗancan abubuwan.

Kelly McNeely: Ina tsammanin fasaha na taka rawa sosai a cikin ta hanya mai girma. Saboda kun saba da ganin fasaha a finafinai masu ban tsoro na zamani, fasahar da ake amfani da ita wajen hada kan mutane. Amma ina tsammanin wannan ra'ayin, sake yin shi don haka yana da matukar wahala ku haɗa tare da wasu don gano abin da ke gudana, zaku iya yin wasa cikin wannan kaɗan.

John Poliquin: Haka ne, Ina nufin, ni da Colin yaran 90s ne. Hakanan yana da - ta hanya mai ban mamaki - wasiƙar soyayya ga wancan zamanin idan ya zo ga laushi.

Kelly McNeely: Kuma gaye.

Colin Minihan: Na ji daɗin kasancewa a cikin gida a saiti, saboda zan yi baya, kuma na kasance kamar, ooh, TV ɗin TV, VHS player, wannan kamar abinci mai daɗaɗaɗɗe ne a yanzu, yana da kyau. 

John Poliquin: Haka ne, wannan kamar yankinmu ne lokacin da suke harbe-harbe a wasu yankuna, kawai zamu zauna a ƙasa na falo, kamar, [nishi mai dadi], Ina jin dadi a nan [dariya].

Kelly McNeely: Yanzu, akwai wasu maganganu masu ƙarfi na tattaunawa, tare da jigogi na rashin daidaito da damuwa da kuma nuna halaye a lokacin, wanda shima yake bayyane a yanzu. Shekaru talatin bayan haka, ta'addanci har yanzu yana kan hanya babba. Don haka ta yaya kuka bincika hakan kuma kuka kawo hakan? Shin yana da mahimmanci a gare ku a cikin tattaunawar ya zama kai tsaye kamar yadda zai yiwu? Don faɗi kamar, wannan shine abin da muke tattaunawa, kuna buƙatar sane da wannan.

Colin Minihan: Ina jin kamar yana da mahimmanci. Akwai wata magana ta Bret Easton Ellis da na karanta, inda yake irin abin da ba shi da kyau game da labaran da suke da sako. Kuma ban tsammanin fim dinmu dole ne ya zama mai wa’azi ba, amma ina ganin duk wanda ya kalle shi zai cire abin da wannan sakon yake. Kuma, a wurina, zan fi so masu sauraro su ɗauki wani abu sabanin yadda aka rasa, saboda an binne shi sosai a cikin labarin. Don haka da gaske muna so mu sanya taken taken.

Kuma babban kwaya game da inda wannan ya fito - kuma me yasa muka sami damar saita shi a cikin shekarun 90s - saboda saboda alama kamar kowane shekaru goma ko makamancin haka, akwai sabon mutum da zai tsorata. Amurka tana da wannan babbar hanyar, wacce aka ƙididdige don sa yawancin ɓangarorin su ji tsoron wannan. Kuma kun ganshi yanzunnan. Kun gan shi a cikin 90s. Kuma zaku ganshi anan gaba, da rashin sa'a. Kuma ina tsammanin wannan kusan ya fara jin kamar hanya ce ta ci gaba da rayuwarsu. Don haka muka fara tunanin yadda irin wannan al'ada take, kuma wannan shine ainihin inda labarin ya fara ɗaukar sa kamar yadda ya faru.

John Poliquin: Zuwa ga batun Colin, muna son dogaro da shi. Kuma ina tsammanin wannan daidaito ne, amma koda lokacin da Malik ya ce wa Haruna, ka sani, menene kalmar gay don Uncle Tom. Wannan ainihin yana haɓaka dangantakar. Ina nufin, akwai abubuwa daban-daban da ke faruwa a cikin rubutun, amma wannan shine tasirin su cewa Haruna yana da ikon wucewa, ko kuma shiga cikin al'adun da suka fi dacewa, yayin da Malik ba shi da wannan dama, kuma Haruna yana yawan haskaka shi , kuma yana da kamar, da kyau, wa kake gefen wa, Haruna? Kuma bai iya ganin haɗarin da ke kewaye da shi ba.

Colin Minihan: Saboda ya dade yana madaidaiciya dan saurayi. Kuma shi ba mai kuzari bane, kuma yana da saukin maraba da shi, kuma ina tsammanin hakan abun birgewa ne ga haruffa.

John Poliquin: Haka ne. Amma ina tsammanin cewa tare da tattaunawar, lallai mun so mu shiga ciki. Ina tsammanin har yanzu ya zo daidai da yadda ya dace da yanayin sautin da yadda suke magana da juna. Amma muna so mu tabbatar da cewa babu wanda zai rasa jigogin kuma za'a shimfida shi sarai.

Kelly McNeely: Kuma ina tsammanin [tare da fim na Kanada] sanya shi a cikin Amurka zaɓi ne mai hikima, saboda akwai babban abu kamar tsoron ɗayan. “Kullum akwai wani da za ku ji tsoronsa. Akwai koyaushe. Kuma a koyaushe zai kasance ”ɗayan layi ne daga fim…

John Poliquin: Ee, tunani ne na rukuni, ita ce hanyar da muke kiyaye halin da muke ciki. 

Colin Minihan: Kafofin watsa labaransu suna taka rawa a cikin irin wannan babu wani.

John Poloquin: Har ila yau wani abu ne da nake ganin yana da muhimmanci a gare mu, shi ma yadda aka nuna [maƙwabta], musamman Marshall da Tiffany, ba nuna kiyayya da nuna wariyar launin fata ko nuna wariyar launin fata ba. Yana da ƙari cewa suna da damuwa game da yadda suke cin gajiyar wannan tsarin da aka tsara don tunkude sauran abubuwan da aka sa gaba a cikin shekaru goma. Kuma ina tsammanin mutane da yawa suna da laifi game da wannan, inda abin ya ke, ee, wataƙila ba ku da wariyar launin fata, ko kuna faɗin maganganun wariyar launin fata, ko ba ku jin kuna da wannan ƙiyayya, amma idan kuna ba ragargaza tarbiyya ko ilimantar da kanku don fahimtar yadda irin wannan fifikon farar fata ke tafiyar da zamantakewarmu kuma muna cin gajiyarta ba, to kun zama wani ɓangare na matsalar.

Kelly McNeely: Yanzu, yaya kuke ƙirƙirar ƙungiyar ku? Menene tsarin yanke shawarar abin da wannan tsafin zai kasance? Saboda wannan yana da alama wannan zai zama wani ɓangare na jin daɗin aikin.

Colin Minihan: Ina tsammanin kuna son barin tambayoyi da yawa ba amsa. Domin da zarar kun fara rubuta dalilan tsafin, abubuwa na iya fara jin ba a kafa su da wuri ba. Kuma idan fim ɗin ba ya jin tushe, to gaskiyar sa ta ragu kuma yana da sauƙi a kasance cikin wannan tafiyar. Akalla a gare ni. Kullum ina son duniyar gaske, ainihin lokacin jin daɗawa, waɗannan fina-finai ne da na girma a kansu. Don haka muna ƙoƙarin ba ku isasshen abin da ya dace game da bautar, da kuma abin da ke motsa su da yadda suke amfani da su. Duk abin da ke cikin fim ɗin hakika irin shuka ne, don haka Malik ya faɗa cikin tarkonsu. 

John Poliquin: Duk abin da ya gani, suna so ya gani, suna yin makirci.

Colin Minihan: Ina tuna abubuwan da aka tsara na asali inda zai sami bayanan abubuwan da yake tattaunawa da abubuwan da suke yi. Kuma akwai wannan lokacin duka, amma muna so a riƙe shi a ɗan ƙarami a cikin duhu, ƙarshe. Ina tsammanin rubutun fim ne mai wahala don rubutawa. Ina tsammanin ya dauki tsawon lokaci fiye da yadda ake nuna fina-finai da yawa kamar yadda nake so, na san abin da suke nan take, kuma wannan tabbas ya samu jinkirin juyin halitta.

Kelly McNeely: Me ya sa ku duka kuka firgita? Ta yaya kuka fara sha'awar firgita?

Colin Minihan: Ina tsammanin tsoro yanki ne na baƙi, kuma na girma koyaushe ina jin kamar baƙo a cikin garin 2500, mutane kawai ba sa jin kamar na dace da can a wani zamani. Kuma koyaushe ina da lamuran tawaye, kuma tsoro yana da tawaye, mai adawa da iko, mai cin gashin kansa. Hakan abin birgewa ne a matsayin mai fasaha. Kuma ba ku dogara da shi ba - musamman lokacin da kuka fara - ba ku dogaro da 'yan wasan da ke da babban darajar suna don tattara albarkatun don yin fim mai ban tsoro ba. Ina da fosta na fim din ban tsoro na farko - Haduwa da Kabari - akan bango. Kuma wannan shine ainihin ruhun mai zaman kansa na samun ƙaramin rukuni na abokai sun haɗu tare da $ 100,000 kuma suna yin wani abu wanda zai ɗauki rayuwar kansa gaba ɗaya. 

Kuma abin ban tsoro ma yayi yawa, saboda, ka sani, Karkace wasan kwaikwayo ne, Karkace yana da ban sha'awa, Karkace Shima fim ne mai ban tsoro. Amma ana tattaunawa da yawa wanda ya wuce kawai, fim ne game da tsafi. Ya fi haka yawa, kuma abin da ke da ban tsoro game da tsoro shi ne cewa da gaske za ku iya bincika abubuwa da yawa da nau'ikan haruffa a ciki. Amma har yanzu suna da labarin gargajiya.

John Poliquin: Haka ne, Zan iya cewa wannan tsoro yana da mafi kyawun magoya baya. Baƙi ne da yawa, mutane da yawa waɗanda suke jin daban, kuma suna ganin jigogin da suke da alaƙa da su - ko haruffan da suke da alaƙa da su - a cikin firgita wanda ba za a iya nuna shi a cikin al'ada ko, ka sani, mafi ƙimar martaba. Amma kuma ina tsammanin cewa yanayin nau'ikan halittar visceral ne, kuma yana bawa masu sauraro damar jin ainihin ƙarancin motsin rai sau da yawa, kuma yana iya ɗaga madubi sama kuma ya tayar da kowane irin fahimta da halayen da suke da ban sha'awa. Amma kuma abin nishaɗi ne sosai! Na shiga cikin firgita tare da kungiyoyin abokai tun ina yarinya, wannan shine gabatarwa ta ga finafinai masu ban tsoro. Kuma wannan abun wasa ne mai ban sha'awa don kallo tare da mutane da tattaunawa bayan kuma jin wani abu.

Kelly McNeely: Ina tsammanin babbar ƙofa ce ta wannan hanyar, saboda kun shiga ciki tun kuna ƙuruciya, kallon abubuwan nishaɗi kawai. Sannan zaku samu saboda kun girme, zaku iya kallon abubuwan da suke ɗan ɗan ƙalubale da kuma mafi rauni a wasu lokuta. 

Kelly McNeely: Colin, tsakanin fina-finai kamar Haduwa da Kabari, Abin da ke Sa ku Raye da kuma Extraterrestrial, da alama kuna da ƙauna irin ƙarshen ƙarewa, wanda yake mai kyau. Shin kayi la'akari da ƙarshen Karkace ya zama mummunan rauni ko ƙarshen fata?

Colin Minihan: Da kyau, ya fi kyau haske [dariya].

John Poliquin: Nayi rubutu mai cike da farin ciki kuma an rufe shi (dariya).

Colin Minihan: Ka aikata, a zahiri kun sanya shi a shafin har zuwa lokacin da muke harbi. Dole ne in yanke shi saboda yana da girma sosai, kuma na kasance kamar, babu yadda za mu harbe wannan a cikin kwanaki 23, Yi haƙuri JP amma mun tafi tare da mummunan ƙarewa [dariya].

Ina tsammanin mummunan rauni na iya ɓata masu sauraro rai, kuma kuna iya rage ƙimar Tumatir ɗin da kuka Rama. Amma ina tsammanin wannan sau da yawa, yana barin ku tuna fim ɗin tare da kasancewa kamar, oh, komai na da kyau a wannan duniyar. Ina tsammanin hakan na iya haifar da tattaunawar da ta fi ta layi idan ta fito daga ingantaccen wuri. Amma wannan ya ce, Ina tsammanin lokacin da kuke cikin weeds na fim, kuna iya fara rubutun ku zama kamar, zai zama kyakkyawan ƙarshe. Amma to rubutun zai bayyana hakan a zahiri, baya son zama hakan. Don haka sai kawai na ji kamar, mutum, wannan fim din ba haka yake ba. Ba ƙarshen wannan labarin ba ne, kun sani, don haka a zahiri, kamar yadda na ce, shekaru 10 daga yanzu za a sami wani wanda ba mu ma san shi ba, “mutumin ba shi da kyau, kuma su ne dalilin da ya sa matsakaita ba ya wanzuwa kuma, su ne suka shigo suka karɓe ayyukanmu! ”. Don haka labarin bai kare ba. 

Don haka wannan fim ɗin kawai ya ba da kansa don son ci gaba da wannan karkace, wanda shine dalilin da ya sa fim ɗin ake kiran abin da shi. Abin baƙin cikin shine ana kiran sauran fina-finai wannan yanzu, amma kuma mun fito da wata hanya don ƙirƙirar ɗan fata, ina tsammanin, wanda yake da mahimmanci. Kuma ina tsammanin Kurtis [David Harder, darekta] ya kasance kamar, wannan ƙarshen mummunan rauni ne, mutum. Kuma John, a bayyane, kunyi ƙoƙari ku rubuta sigar sa mai farin ciki, amma mun sami wani yanki na tsakiya inda, ku sani, Malik zaiyi amfani da ɗan gutsuttsen burodi don tsara mai zuwa wanda zai basu harbi. Kuma ina tsammanin wannan ma sako ne mai kyau, saboda abin da muke yi yanzu ne mai yiwuwa ba lallai ya shafe mu ba, amma zai shafi rukunin mutane na gaba.