Robert Eggers ya girgiza masu kallo da fim din sa na farko, A mayya, kuma da sauri ya zama suna don kallo a fagen wasan sinima. Tsammani ya kasance yana shirin sakin sabon fim din sa, The Faro, zafin zazzabi zuwa hauka wanda ya motsa ta wasanni biyu masu nauyi da tauraruwa Robert Pattinson da Willem Dafoe suka yi.

Kwanan nan na sami damar tattaunawa da Eggers game da The Faro, wasan kwaikwayon bugawa, da kuma kalubale na musamman na kirkirar fim da irin wannan cikakkiyar kulawa ga daki-daki.

Latsa nan don karanta cikakken nazari na of The Faro daga farkon sa a TIFF

Kelly McNeely: Da farko dai, menene asalin fim din? Daga ina wannan tunanin ya fito? Ta yaya aka haife hakan?

Robert Eggers: Myan'uwana yana aiki a kan fim wanda ya ce labarin fatalwa ne a cikin fitila, kuma ina tsammanin wannan babban ra'ayi ne kuma ina fata ba zai yi nisa da shi ba don in nemi izininsa in sata . Kuma wannan shine abin da ya faru saboda lokacin da ya faɗi labarin fatalwa a cikin gidan wuta, na ɗauki hoton wannan baƙar fata da fari, ƙyalli, ƙura, musty, yanayi mai tsatsa, sosai mũnin daga farkon abincin dare. Kuma ina so in sami labarin da ya tafi tare da wannan yanayin. 

Don haka a baya a cikin 2011 ko 2013, ko wani abu makamancin haka, lokacin da na fara aiki The Faro, A mayya sun haɗu kuma a cikin faruwar hakan na kira ɗan'uwana na ce, duba, bari mu rubuta wannan rubutun haske tare, Ina haɓaka wasu manyan abubuwa, kuma ina tsammanin zai zama da hikima a sami ƙaramin abu a aljihuna na baya. Don haka mun ɗauki shafuka na 10 na zane-zane da kuri'a da rubutattun bayanai da hotuna da yawa kuma muka juya shi zuwa wannan fim ɗin tare shekaru biyu da suka gabata.

Kelly McNeely: Kuna da kyakkyawar sadaukarwa na lokaci da yanayi mai kyau da cikakkun bayanai, tsakanin hasken wuta na halitta, ginin saitin, yanayin kyan gani, da rabon 1.19: 1. Shin zaku iya yin magana kaɗan game da yadda ake tattarawa da gina waɗannan abubuwan a cikin fim ɗin?

Robert Eggers: Haka ne, Ina nufin, kowane abu abu ne mai mahimmanci, koyaushe ina yin bincike yayin da nake rubutu, da kuma tattara hotuna yayin da nake rubutu, kuma hotunan na iya ƙarfafa jigogi da komai, domin wannan fim ɗin yana da irin wannan dogon tarihi a rayuwar fim. Na yi magana da Jarin Blaschke DP game da wannan tsawon shekara, kuma muna da ra'ayoyi iri daban-daban. Kuma duk irin wannan ya sauka ne, a ƙarshe, kamar menene zamu sami hannayen mu? Kuma, kun sani, da mun so a harbe shi a kan samfurin fim na orthochromatic wanda zaku iya siyan don ɗaukar hoto har yanzu, amma babu wanda zai iya sanya hakan a cikin fim ɗin hoto na 35mm a gare mu, kuma ba za mu iya samunsa ba idan muna so zuwa. Don haka muka zauna akan bwXX, mummunan baƙar fata da fari wanda bai canza ba tun shekarun 1950s. 

Blackarfin baƙar fata ba zato ba tsammani ta hanya mai gamsarwa, yana da ƙananan bambanci, kuma kun san menene kuma? Kamar, yana wanzu! [dariya] Sannan Jarin yayi aiki tare da Schneider don ƙirƙirar matattara ta al'ada don ba mu yanayin kallo, sa'annan Panavision ya buɗe kabad ɗin su na ruwan tabarau mai ban al'ajabi ga Jarin wanda zai iya shiga kamar ɗalibin makaranta mai ɗabi'a kuma ya sami kowane nau'i na rarities. Muna da tunanin harbi biyu ko uku tare da gilashin zuƙowa wanda bamu ma san menene ba, daga ina yake, lokacin da aka yi shi. Don haka suka yi tunani, “Jarin ya kamata ya kalli wannan” (dariya).

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Kelly McNeely: tare da A mayya, Na san an ciro tattaunawar daga takardun tarihi. Menene tsari don rubuta tattaunawar don The Faro?

Robert Eggers: Ee, da A mayya yana da jimloli da yawa waɗanda basu dace ba daga asalin lokacin. Abinda nake tsammani a lokacin shine, don girmama waɗannan tsarkakan waɗanda suka yi tsauri matuka a cikin imaninsu da hangen nesa na duniya da nake buƙata a zahiri, kamar, amfani da ainihin kalmomin da suka kamata su faɗa. A cikin wannan fim ɗin, ni da ɗan'uwana ba mu da jumloli da yawa waɗanda suke tsayayyu - akwai wasu, amma ba yawa. Amma muna kawai zana daga majiyar mu na zamani don neman hanyar rubuta namu tattaunawa.

Tushen mafi taimako shine Sarah Orne Jewett, daga kyakkyawan tsohuwar jihar Maine. Tana rubuce-rubuce a cikin lokacinmu kuma tana yin hira da mutane masu aiki a gabar Maine, kuma tana rubuta manyan labaranta da yare. Sannan matata ta samo mana takaddar magana game da aikin yare a cikin Sarah Orne Jewett wanda ya samar da dokoki don yarukan daban-daban don haka da gaske zamu iya zama takamaiman aikin namu. Amma Dafoe yana da cikakkun jimloli guda biyu waɗanda suka zo kai tsaye daga manyan hafsoshin jiragen ruwa da suka yi ritaya a cikin aikin Jewett, wanda ake tsammani ya fito kai tsaye daga ainihin shugabannin rundunonin ruwa masu ritaya. 

Kelly McNeely: Yaya batun lafazin fa? Saboda akwai takamaiman lafazin da suke amfani dashi Hasken Haske.

Robert Eggers: Don haka lafazin Rob kamar yake, ka sani, tsohuwar lafazin Sabuwar Ingila. Kamar yana dogara ne da lafazin gabas, amma ina tsammanin idan kai ɗan New England ne na ainihi, ka sani, zaka sami ɗanɗanar wanda ba kawai ya kasance wuri ɗaya a cikin New England ba duk rayuwarsa. Na sayi motar iyalina lokacin da nake ziyartar iyayena kwanan nan a New Hampshire kuma mai siyar da motar ya girma a Boston kuma ya koma Maine, sannan New Hampshire, kuma ya yi kusa da Rob, sun yi kama da juna. Afoarfin Dafoe wani abu ne wanda yake ba da ka'ida ba tare da Rhotic R– mai wuya R, ɗan fashin teku Arr - yana da hakan a cikin Maine da ke bakin teku, mun san cewa hakan yana cikin New Brunswick ne kaɗan arewa, kuma a Nova Scotia can nesa arewa da hakan.

Kelly McNeely: Robert Pattinson da Willem Dafoe sun jimre da gaske; suna wucewa sama da haƙiƙa da ƙwarewar jikinsu. Shin akwai wata ma'ana da ya kamata ku ja abubuwa baya?

Robert Eggers: Tabbas ba haka bane. Ka sani, labari ne mai tsauri kuma waɗannan suna da kwazo guda biyu masu ban sha'awa, masu kwazo, masu aiki tuƙuru waɗanda suke bayan ƙalubalantar abu, kuma suna so a tura su zuwa iyakar su kuma ban buƙaci in ja da baya ba. Hakanan ban da gaske buƙatar tura abubuwa, saboda suna so su ba da mafi kyawun fim ɗin su. An yi tattaunawa mai yawa a cikin jaridu a baya game da Robert Pattinson da ke so ya naushe ni a fuska don wani yanayi. Amma idan ana ruwan sama a waje kuma ruwan sama baya karantawa a kusa, sai a ciro igiyar wuta domin ruwan sama ya karanta. Kuma wannan ba sauki bane. Amma kun san idan Rob na so ya cutar da ni a jiki, ban san hakan ba a lokacin saboda ya kasance mai ƙwarewa kamar jahannama kuma yana son tabbatar da cewa wannan lokacin ya yi kyau kamar yadda zai yiwu. 

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Kelly McNeely: Wane tatsuniyoyi kuka ja daga don kafa labarin? 

Robert Eggers: Kasusuwan labarin suna dogara ne akan abin da ake zargi da gaskiya. Ana kiranta sau da yawa azaman Fitilar Haske ta Haske, kuma hakan ya faru ne a Wales a kusan 1800. Kuma masu tsaron fitila ne guda biyu, duka suna Thomas, ɗayan ƙarami ɗaya ƙarami, sun sami labarin tsibirin a tashar fitilar su saboda akwai hadari. Babban ya mutu, karamin kuwa ya haukace. Akwai ƙarshen tatsuniyoyi irin na mutane waɗanda ba zan faɗi su ba, amma kuna iya kallon sama da sauƙi. Kuma wannan shine asalin wannan - ko kuma wancan shine tsaba da aka dasa don labarin ya girma daga. 

Lokacin da Max - ɗan'uwana wanda ya rubuta wannan tare da ni - kuma ni na ci gaba da bayyana labarin, sai mu ce wa kanmu, waɗanne tatsuniyoyi ko tatsuniyoyi na zamani ne da muke haɗuwa da su ba da gangan ba? Tare da A mayya Na kasance ina kallon Hansel da Gretel, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, bayan da na rubuta abin da na rubuta don sake maimaita Hansel da Gretel-isms. Don haka mun tambayi kanmu waɗanne irin tatsuniyoyi na gargajiya da muke da alaƙa da su a nan don ƙoƙarin sake ba da jigogi, zane-zane, da hoto. Mun zabi abubuwan gargajiya ne saboda ra'ayoyinsu game da tatsuniyoyi na gargajiya wanda Dafoe ya sanya shi a cikin tsafin teku wanda Melville ya yi wahayi. Don haka akwai mishmash na abubuwa daban-daban daga Proteus zuwa Prometheus cewa wasu masanan gargajiya suna iya jin haushin cewa mun haɗu, amma, ina ganin babu matsala. 

Kelly McNeely: Ina son amfani da wutar lantarki a cikin biyun A mayya da kuma The Faro. Me ya ba ka kwarin gwiwar yin fim ta wannan hanyar? 

Robert Eggers: Jarin Blaschke - DP - kuma ina son tsarin dabi'a. Haske a ciki The Faro ya fi salo fiye da A mayya; A mayya a zahiri yana amfani da haske na ɗabi'a da harshen wuta ga duka amma harbi ɗaya ko biyu, banda na waje waɗanda dare ke bayyane wanda dole a kunna su. 

The Faro, a gefe guda, yana amfani da mummunan baƙar fata da fari waɗanda basu canza ba tun shekarun 1950 don haka yana buƙatar ƙarin haske da yawa don zama fallasawa. Koyaya, ba mu haskaka shi kamar tsohuwar fim ba; kodayake hasken yana da ban mamaki kuma ya cika chiaroscuro, ba kamar tsofaffin fina-finai ba, muna amfani da madogarar wutar lantarki waɗanda suke cikin wurin don haskaka wuraren. Wannan ya ce, ba ainihin harshen wuta ba ne a cikin wannan fitilar kananzir saboda ba za ku taba samun fitina daga harshen wuta ba. Don haka muna da kwan fitila halogen 600 watt a kan fitila mai haske wanda ke haifar da wancan kamannin wuta. Kuma ina son shi, musamman tare da baki da fari saboda yana birgima, ka sani, kamar tsohuwar sinima. Hoton yana da numfashi, idan zan iya zama mai daraja haka. 

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Kelly McNeely: Na fahimci kun gina duka saitin, abin ban mamaki. Menene kalubalen yin fim a wuri? 

Robert Eggers: Haka ne, mun gina kowane ginin da kuka gani a fim, gami da hasumiyar hasumiyar hasumiyar ƙafa 70. Ba za mu iya samun fitilar wutar lantarki da ke yi mana aiki ba, ba za mu iya samun ɗayan da ke da kyakkyawar hanyar shiga ba wacce ke da damar harbawa. Amma samun gina ɗaya yana nufin cewa muna da iko da yawa. Don haka gabaɗaya, harbi akan wuri tare da ginin saiti da yawa ya bamu tarin iko. Wancan ya ce, don ba da labarin yadda ya kamata, mun zaɓi wuri mai wahala mai wahala wanda muka san za mu sami mummunan yanayi. Don haka hakan ya haifar da matsaloli masu yawa - ba zai yuwu a tafi da sauri ba kamar yadda dan adam ke karkashin iska mai karfin iska tare da ruwan sama mai karfi, kuma ka sani a yanayin zafi sama da kan daskarewa kuma ba za ka iya matsawa da sauri ba; kamarar za ta karye. Don haka akwai kalubale da yawa, amma ba wanda yake gunaguni. Wannan shine abin da muka sanya hannu akai. Mun so a kalubalance mu.

The Faro an sake shi zuwa iyakantaccen silima a cikin Amurka a ranar 18 ga Oktoba, tare da nishaɗi mai yawa da za a bi a ranar 25 ga Oktoba.