Kelly McNeely:  Don haka koma baya ga yanayin jin tsoro na gaba ɗaya, Na san cewa a cikin littafin zane, sun ambata cewa suna ƙoƙari su haɗa abubuwa na cinema giallo 70s tare da sha'awar masu kisan gilla. Ina matukar son abin da kuka yi da dabi'ar Kathy, wacce ke yin irin wannan dabi'ar ta Michelle McNamara wacce ke mai da hankali kan waɗanda abin ya shafa, kuma ina tsammanin wannan kyakkyawar fahimta ce. Me ya ja hankalinka har ka kawo wannan canjin kuma me ya ja hankalinka zuwa ga aikin gaba daya?

Jay Baruchel: Ee, lafiya, sanyi. Tare da Kathy - wannan yana da kyau sosai har kuka faɗi Michelle McNamara, saboda matata ta kasance mai kauna na littafin. Amma a gare ni ainihin Ann Rule ne wanda saboda kowane irin dalili ba ya samun ƙaunarta a cikin aikata laifuka na gaskiya - kamar a cikin sabon hipster fucking laifi na gaskiya, babu wanda ya sami lokacin Dokar - amma ita duka ta ƙirƙiri nau'in lalata, da littafinta mai kashe Green River shi ne abu mafi wuya da na taɓa karantawa. Kuma da wuya sosai, saboda - kuma na gode da na karanta shi azaman ɗan shekara 26 - bai faru da ni ba kafin na karanta wannan shirmen a baya. Ko kuma aƙalla ina karanta shi ba tare da kulawa ba, saboda duk abin da yake ga kowane babi na 10 game da wanda aka azabtar, akwai babi ɗaya watakila game da wanda ya yi kisan, kuma kowane babi tarihin rayuwa ne wanda ya ƙare da wannan yarinyar da wannan mutumin ya kashe . Sabili da haka kun karanta duk waɗannan ƙwayoyin halittar a cikin wannan littafin cewa duk suna zuwa ƙarshen fucking ɗaya. Kuma wannan babban epiphany ne a gare ni a matsayin wanda ya kasance mai son aikata laifi na gaskiya tun lokacin da nake saurayi. 

Kuma wannan ɓarna ya ɓata cikin wannan abin da Stephen King ya nuna lokacin da yake yin ginshiƙi a Fangoria game da yadda finafinai masu lalata ke yawanci abubuwa da yawa, amma ba abin tsoro bane. Kuma suna da irin fucked up. Ya ce, idan har za ku iya sanya sunan Jason kuma ku tausaya masa kuma kuna sane don ya kashe yaran, ba su ne fim din yake magana ba. Game da shi ne. Kuma to menene kwarewar a matsayin memba na masu sauraro. Kuma waɗannan abubuwan mamaki guda biyu, suna da kama da juna.

Ina tsammanin suna nuna martani ga aikin da mutumin ya aikata sabanin abin da mutane suka sha wahala. Kuma ban so wannan a cikina ba, kun sani? Amma da rahama duk da haka, wannan fahimtar ta zo gare ni a wani lokaci wanda Ayyukan bazata na Rikici ba za a iya yin ba, kuma na gode, saboda mun rubuta farkon aikin maganin kamar, takwas, shekaru tara da suka gabata. Kuma da yawa daga cikin wannan shit ɗin bai same mu ba tukuna, kuma mu - Jesse [Chabot] da ni - ba mu girma ba don gane wasu daga wannan shit.

Bana kokarin cewa fim din namu kamar, ka sani, mai bin diddigi or Solaris ko wani abu, amma ina faɗin cewa asali mun rubuta kyakkyawa a kan hanci, abin da kuke tsammani mai ƙanƙan da kai wanda ya yi daidai. Mun bi da gore kamar yadda kuka magance fadan a cikin fim ɗin Bond, kuma wannan shine makasudin yadda mahaukaci zamu iya samun, dama? Wace irin wannan hanyar sassauƙa ce don shiga can, saboda koda kuwa baku yarda da duk irin zub da jini mai ƙyama ba - amma muna yin hakan bisa doka - koda kuwa baku yarda da wannan kaya ba, ƙyamar waje ba tsoro bane. Lokacin da mahaukacin fesa fesa cutarwa decapitation ya faru da ma'anar inda kuka fi biyar da mutumin da ke kusa da ku, kuna jin daɗi da yawa, amma tsoro ba shine ɗaya daga cikin abubuwan da kuke ji ba.

Sabili da haka mun kasance kamar, ko da menene, muna son yin wani abin tsoro da gaske, saboda idan fim mai ban tsoro ya kasa komai, yakamata yayi nasarar zama mai ban tsoro. Kuma menene mafi ban tsoro fiye da kallon kanku da rashin jin daɗin wannan mutumin da kuke zama? Ka sani, wannan shit ne ainihin, mutum. Amma kuma ba ma son mu zama masu kwazo kuma mu gaya wa kowa kamar “kar a kalli fucking Jason Ya Tafi Wuta”, Yi duk abinda kake so kawai ka san abinda kake sakawa. 

Hakanan, ban da wannan mutane yakamata su kasance - zuwa wane mataki ne za a yi muhawara - amma mutane ya kamata su zama masu alhakin abin da suka sanya a cikin duniyar fucking. Yanzu, a wane digiri, ina sha'awar tattaunawa da ganowa da bincika da ƙoƙari na fahimta, amma don nuna kamar ba ku da alhakin komai shine doki, ina tsammanin. Kuma wannan wani abu ne wanda malalacin malalaci da yawa suka ɓoye a baya shine “babu, a'a, zan iya faɗin duk abin da nakeso”. Da kyau, ee, zaku iya, amma menene jimlar wannan? Menene tasirin tarin girma a cikin duniya? Me kuke karawa, me kuke karba? Wace rawa kuke ci gaba?

Don haka muna samun wannan ƙaramin fim ɗin da aka yi - kamar kowane fim mu'ujiza ce mai ban tsoro - ya mutu mummunan mutuwa sau uku kafin daga baya ya zama fim. Kuma a kowane lokaci koda yake, kowane mummunan mutuwa, ba mu gamsu da rubutun yadda yake ba. Mun kasance kamar, da kyau, wannan wata dama ce ta inganta shi. Ba mu da komai sai lokaci yanzu, don haka muna iya ci gaba da sanya shi mai kyau saboda yadda shitty zai kasance a ƙarshe don sanya shi kuma rubutun ne da muka rubuta shekaru 10 da suka gabata wanda ba mu ma yarda da shi ba, kuma ya sami ƙura. Don haka kawai mun ɗauke shi kamar rubutunmu saboda ba mu da wani zaɓi na lalata. Ba kawai za mu yi yatsan manyan yatsun hannayenmu ba ne. Don haka idan fim ɗin ba a cikin samarwa yake ba, babu wanda ke ba mu kuɗi don yin sa, mafi ƙarancin abin da za mu iya yi shi ne ƙoƙari mu ci gaba da sa shi ya zama mai ma'ana. Don haka ko yaya, wannan shine yadda ya ƙare yadda yake.

Kelly McNeely: Mugun mutumin da kuke dashi, ya gani a taƙaice amma ya bar irin wannan tasirin mai ƙarfi; wannan dan wasan yana da kyau a wannan rawar. Taya zaka jefa mai kisa?

Jay Baruchel: Haka ne, tare da wahala mai yawa. Mun jefa shi kwana uku kafin mu fara harbi, wanda yake kamar, yana da matukar damuwa, saboda ina da duk waɗannan abubuwan ban mamaki, amma wani abu da ke da mahimmanci a cikin fim mai ban tsoro, musamman irin wannan fim ɗin na ban tsoro, shine mai kisan. Kuma muna da kyaututtuka daban-daban guda biyu ga mutane biyu daban-daban waɗanda suke kamar, tabbatattun abubuwa, waɗanda a cikin awa 11, suka yi belinsu. Muna da wannan tsari ya faru sau biyu.

Kuma ba zato ba tsammani, yanzu kwana biyar kenan da fara shirin ɗaukar hoto kuma muna kamar, yana da kyau, dole ne mu fara shirin wani yanayi wanda ba mu da mai kashe mu a ranar farko ta fara harbi. Yayi, da kyau, hakan yayi daidai. Ya kasance a cikin abin rufe fuska, don haka za mu iya yin hayar mai sau biyu mu sami mai ninki biyu a wurin, saboda ba mu ga fuskarsa ba a wasu lokuta na farko. Don haka, mai girma, za mu yi hayar mai sau biyu sannan kuma sannan mu yi hayar ɗan wasan kwaikwayo don ya yi daidai da na biyu? Da kyau wannan irin jaki ne na baya, haka ne? Mun kasance kawai irin fucked.

Sannan a ranar Laraba ko Alhamis din wancan makon, na ce wa mai tsara aikina Blair [Johannes], na ce game da duk samarinku, samarin da kuka je wa, wa ya fi dacewa da tattaunawa? Wanene dan wasa mafi kyau? Kuma idan zaku iya gaya mani waɗannan samarin, kuna iya tambayarsu idan suna son karantawa? Saboda yawancin rawar da yake takawa ne, saboda haka duk wanda muka jefa, zai zama mai aiki biyu fiye da ɗan wasan.

Don haka na kalli kowane mai wasan kwaikwayo a cikin garin lalata, kun sani, wa kuke so? Kuma yana kama da, lafiya, na sami samari uku, ɗayansu ya ji rauni don haka ba zai iya yi ba. Guyayan saurayin, ya yi masa yawa, akwai tattaunawa da yawa, yana wajen wajen jin daɗin sa. Don haka ya isa daidai, ina girmama shi yana faɗin haka. Kuma abin da ke da kyau shine Simon Northwood ya sanya kansa a kan tef. 

Kuma na rantse da Allah, shine mafi kyawun lokacin sauraro. Kuma na wuce zagaye biyu na uku na sauraro a Toronto, waɗanda suka kasance na ƙasa kuma, don haka muna ganin Montreal, Vancouver, ina ganin komai. Amma, zagaye biyu. Kuma a daren alhamis kafin mu fara shiri, ina kallon wannan tef ɗin binciken. Kuma ta hanyar, idan bai kasance mai ban tsoro ba, Na kasance a shirye don tafiya wannan makon farko ba tare da ba. Da na sayi lokaci, da za mu matsa kusa da shi, dama? Amma fucking ya kashe shi.

Kowane lokaci lokaci, kuna sane da makoma. Kuna sane, kun ga abubuwa; kuna kama, oh wannan shine dalilin da ya sa waɗannan mutane biyun da nake tsammanin za su yi ba, kuma wannan shine dalilin da ya sa babu wanda - a ganina - ya kashe shi yadda ya kamata su kashe shi. Wannan shine dalilin da ya sa ban sami kowa ba. Wannan shine dalilin da ya sa ba a sami waɗancan sauran masu wasan kwaikwayon biyu ba, saboda ya zama Simon. Kuma yanzu ba zato ba tsammani, ba lallai bane in sami tsaka mai wuya, yanzu kwatsam kowane wurin kashe-kashe yana samun aminci sosai saboda ya shiga cikinsu, kuma zai tabbatar yan fim na sun kare. Don haka yana sauya sau biyu a kowane fage. Yana yin abinsa a matsayin mai kisa, amma kuma yana ƙasa don tabbatar da kowa ya sami lafiya, abin da yake yi koyaushe. 

Ya kasance bawan Allah kuma kun sani, daya daga cikin abin da nake alfahari da shi da wannan fim din shi ne, ya zama kamar na gano Simon Northwood ne, saboda ina ganin kamar, wannan kyakkyawar rawa ce kamar yadda na gani a kowane fim a cikin fucking sosai dogon lokaci. Yana halakarwa! Kuma wannan shine mutumin da, saboda kowane irin haɗuwa da dalilai, bai taɓa samun damar faɗi fiye da “Daskare!” ko “Dama wannan hanyar, ma'am” a cikin fim. Ya kasance mai farin cikin samun abin yi, kuma banda hankali, ya ƙare da gano shit wanda ban iya ɗaukar ciki ba, wanda shine mafarki koyaushe idan ka ɗauki wani aiki.

Kelly McNeely: Kun sauya abubuwa, kaɗan, daga littafin zane don samun alamun farawa a Kanada. Amma ina tsammanin slasher ra'ayin Amurkawa ne, daidai ne. Kuma don haka da yake ina da wannan tunanin game da tafiya da shi zuwa cikin Jihohi, Ina jin kamar wannan ya yi aiki sosai. Ina so in yi magana kaɗan game da slashers a matsayin ra'ayin Ba'amurke, kuma ta yaya za ku gina fim ɗin slasher?

Jay Baruchel: Kuna da gaskiya, nau'in fasaha ne na Amurka. Kuma ina tsammanin yana kama da kowane nau'in fasahar Amurka wanda yake samun nasara. Yana kama ku ta wata hanya. Ya zama kamar, mai zina daga Burger King yayi abubuwa. Ina so shi. Ya faɗi a tabo - Na san shi mai ƙanshi, kuma na san datti ne, kuma na san shi kemikal ne, na san sarkar ce, Na san duk waɗannan dalilai daban-daban da ya sa ya kamata in ci shi - amma Allah ya tsine masa ya yi wani abu da ba komai wani yayi [dariya], ya sami wani wuri mai ban tsoro, mutum.

Sabili da haka zan yi jayayya cewa wannan nau'in yana yin abu iri ɗaya, kuma don yawancin dalilai iri ɗaya. A gare ni, ina tsammanin ya fara da, dole ne ku ba da izini game da mutanen da za a bi su, na ɗaya, in ba haka ba fim din ban tsoro bane. Sannan ina kallon wannan mutumin yana yawo yana kashe mutane ban bashi komai ba, kuma wannan wani abu ne don kansa, amma ba fim bane mai ban tsoro a gare ni. Don haka ina so in bata musu rai, ina son duk wani mummunan abu da ya faru ga mutanen da ake fatattakarsu zuwa kasa, ina so hakan ya shafe ni da kaina kamar yadda mutum zai iya. Ina so shi ya karya zuciyata. Kuma ina so in ji wannan ƙarancin abin mamaki wanda shine halaccin damuwa daga fim.

Yana da matukar wuya a gare ni in sami damuwa a cikin motsi har zuwa kamar "fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck", Ba na son komai kamar jin kamar akwai wani a ƙofar. Ina so in ji tsoro in juya, nesa da allo, domin ina jin kamar wani na baya na. Kuma wannan kusan ba ya faruwa. Don haka kawai ina so in tsorata mutane. Ina so in yi wani abu mai ban tsoro. Ina tsammanin amsar ita ce - wataƙila wannan babbar amsa ce - amma ina tsammanin amsar daidai take da ta amsar yadda kuke yin wani abin dariya? Ko yaya kuke rubuta kyakkyawan waƙa, ina tsammanin, wanda yake daidai ne, gaskiya, mutum. 

Kuna iya zargin fim ɗinmu da abubuwa daban-daban, amma ban tsammanin za ku iya kiransa doki ba, ina tsammanin fim ne mai gaskiya da gaske kuma mun kusanci komai ta wannan hanyar. Kuma wannan ya hada da tashin hankali, wanda ya hada da mai kashe mu / dodo, wanda ya hada da masu fada aji. Na yi imani sosai a cikin nau'in fina-finai masu ban tsoro. Kuma bana tsammanin cancantar wani abu ya dogara ne akan ko ya cika ko ya samar da aiki ko wani abu.

Wasu mutane za su ce, me yasa finafinai masu ban tsoro suke cin nasara? Akwai tambayoyi da yawa tare da Wes Craven, wanda ke magana game da yadda muke buƙatar korar ko mafarki mai ban tsoro ko ma menene. Kullum wannan shit ne, wanda yake da gaskiya, hakan yayi kyau, amma kamar, ko da kuwa bai cika wannan ba, zanyi tsammanin suna da mahimmanci saboda akwai babban ɓangaren mu wanda yake da tsoro da tsoro. A cikin kowane ɗayanmu. Muna jin tsoro kuma muna jin tsoro, kuma muna tsoron kanmu kuma mun san abin da ke ban tsoro game da mu. Hakanan muna tsoron wasu mutane, mun san abin da ke firgita game da su, tsoro shine mahimmin abu a cikin yanayin ɗan adam kamar yarda da ciwo. 

Ina tsammanin kuna so kawai, tafi da ƙarfi, tafi ainihin, kuma ku ba da kunya game da mutanen da yake faruwa da su. Kuma mafi dacewa, sami masu sauraro a cikin wani yanayi mara dadi tare da mugu. Ina tsammanin ya kamata - jin kai da tausayawa, da ban sani ba - amma na san cewa idan za ku iya fahimta ko ganin wani yanki daga gare ku, ko kuma wani yanki daga cikinsu ya yi tasiri a gare ku, wannan shine mafi kyau. Wannan shine mafi kyawun, idan zan iya rikitar dashi kuma in fahimta… kamar har yanzu ina iya son shaidan ya fita, amma fahimci dalilin da yasa yake ɗaukar wannan firist ɗin… Wannan shine mafi kyau. 

Kelly McNeely: Ina tsammanin yana da kyau sosai, kamar abin da kuke magana game da masu kisan kai, ya zama kun samo tushen kisan - mai kisan ya zama jarumi - wanda shine abin da kuka magance a cikin rubutun. Don haka ina ganin yana da mahimmanci a yi wannan tattaunawar, magance gaskiyar cewa akwai wannan ɗaukaka tashe-tashen hankula a cikin al'adunmu, amma a lokaci guda, kamar… akwai wasu manyan tashe-tashen hankula a cikin al'adunmu! Kuna iya godiya da gaske, zaku iya zurfafawa a ciki, kuma da gaske yana aiki da wani abu a cikinmu kuma yana cakulkul wani abu da muke buƙata. Ina tsammanin akwai wata bukata mai zurfi, mai zurfi don ganin wannan rikici na gladiatorial.

Jay Baruchel: Oh, tabbas. Tabbas. Domin an haifemu cikin tashin hankali. Ee, abu ne mara kyau, kuma haka ne, abu ne mai kyau, amma kuma abu ne kawai!

Kelly McNeely: Yana wanzu!

Jay Baruchel: Haka ne! Kamar, me yasa ake haɗa ja da sha'awar duniya? Domin saboda jinin friggin ja ne. Kuma idan kaga jini, ka san wani mummunan abu ya faru. Don haka a baya lokacin da ba mu da kalmomi don bayyana abin da ya sa muke tsoro ko kuma inda za mu je idan kun ga ja, kun san bai kamata ku kasance a wurin ba. Kuma ina tsammanin mun gina katunan gidaje akan wannan. Na ainihi ma, amma har yanzu gidan katunan ƙarshe ne. A ƙarshen rana, har yanzu ina tsammanin dabbobi iri ɗaya muke yi wa irin wannan shit ɗin.

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Don ƙarin tare da Jay Baruchel, kasance a shirye don tattaunawarmu ta kyauta game da bayar da umarni, tasirin aiki, da finafinan da ya fi so, da kuma cikakken nazari na Ayyukan bazata na Rikici.

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