Justin Benson da Aaron Moorhead su ne biyu daga cikin masu kirkirar fina-finai masu ban sha'awa da ke ci gaba da aiki a masana'antar yau. Kamar finafinansu na baya - Resolution, Guguwar, da kuma Thearshen - fim dinsu na karshe, - aiki tare, yana da abubuwan kirkirar abubuwan sci-fi da kuma manyan jigogi tare da zurfin, haɗin ɗan adam wanda ke damun masu sauraro cikin tausayawa.

Saiti da harbi a New Orleans, Aiki tare madaukai a cikin tauraruwar tauraruwa mai tauraro tare da Anthony Mackie (Kyaftin Amurka: Civil War) da Jamie Dornan (50 Inuwar Grey). Kwanan nan na sami damar da zan zauna tare da Justin Benson da Aaron Moorhead don tattaunawa game da 'yan wasa, fim ɗin, New Orleans, magungunan ƙwayoyi, da mahimmancin amfani da lokaci.

[Kuna iya karanta na cikakken bita na Aiki tare nan]

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Kelly McNeely: Don haka menene asalin Aiki tare?  

Haruna Moorhead: A ina aka fara shi da gaske? Ina tsammanin mun sami biyu da muke son magana game da wannan mun yi ƙoƙari mu gano shi zuwa inda ya fara duka. Saboda muna daukar lokaci mai tsawo tare, babu wani lokacin kawo ruwa. Daya yana nan a Toronto a mashaya, kuma suna wasa Back to da Future. Kuma mun kasance kawai laser manne a kan shi, saboda shi ne mafi kyawun fim a duniya. Kuma kawai yin wasa game da gaskiyar cewa wannan fim ɗin gaba ɗaya ya rabu idan Marty McFly ya kasance baƙi.

Kuma, sannan kuma wani abin shine, Ina tsammanin, a zahiri, kawai ra'ayin ne. Tunanin likitan zane; cewa lokacin da ya shafi tsinkayenka, abin da yake shafar fahimtarka a zahiri shine yadda mutane suke fuskantar lokaci. Mun kware dashi kai tsaye, alhali kuwa masana ilimin lissafi suna cewa a zahiri duk yana faruwa kuma ya riga ya faru a lokaci ɗaya a kan juna, amma zamu iya samun damar hanyar layi kawai. Kuma mun fahimci cewa idan, idan kwayoyi zasu iya yin canje-canje a tsinkayenku, me yasa ba zai iya yin hakan ba? Mahimmanci samun damar girma na biyar.

Kelly McNeely: Kuma ina son irin wannan "bayanin lokaci ne mai faɗi" tare da mai rikodin, Ina tsammanin hakan kyakkyawa ne. Abin da ya zama wahayi ko tasiri a gare ku yayin yin Aiki tare? Baya ga Back to da Future, i mana.

Justin Benson: Alan Moore, da yawa littattafan ban dariya na Alan Moore.

Haruna Moorhead: Oh, mutum, Ina jin kamar muna so ne kawai don yin s-fi kusan Famous ko wani abu.

Justin Benson: Ya ɗan rinjaye shi Wakar Duhu. 

Haruna Moorhead: Yayi kadan a ciki, ee.

Justin Benson: Wanne, a hanyar, wancan fim din - mun rubuta fim game da ainihin wannan al'ada. Amma Aleister Crowley ne yake yin tsafin. Kuma mun gani [Wakar Duhu] a lokacin wani biki na fim da tunani, alhamdulillahi da ba mu sa shi ba, da mun yi fim iri daya.

Haruna Moorhead: Ina tsammanin shi ke nan, sau da yawa ba ma nuna fim don zama kamar, bari mu yi fim din. Ka sani, da gaske ragowa ne da abubuwa iri daya, wannan harbi tare da aikin hannu kamar Yara na maza ko, ka sani, wannan ƙananan kayan. Gaskiya kaya kadan. Ka sani, a zahiri, akwai kamanceceniya iri tsakanin wannan da yanayin faɗakarwa a cikin 2001: A Space Odyssey, kawai tsoron. Kuma ba ku san abin da ya sa akwai cikakken minti 30 na wannan a cikin fim ɗinmu ba, da fatan. 

Kelly McNeely: Na lura cewa lokaci abu ne mai gudana tare da finafinanku - wani abu ne da kuke son bincika kaɗan. Shin zaku iya magana game da dalilin da yasa lokaci ya zama mai ban sha'awa, kuma me yasa wannan shine abin da kuke ci gaba da dawowa?

Haruna Moorhead: Ina ganin zamu cigaba da dawowa lokaci domin yana bamu tsoro. Gaskiya ne mara misaltuwa, ya kamata mu sami kwanciyar hankali da wannan gaskiyar. Amma muna yin rayuwarmu gaba ɗaya muna ƙoƙari mu sami kwanciyar hankali tare da gaskiyar cewa lokaci zai wuce, duk abin da kuka sani zai ɓace, kuma daga ƙarshe ku ma za ku yi. Kowane mutum yana ƙoƙari ya zama mai sauƙi da shi, wannan yana ɗaya daga cikin gwagwarmayar rayuwa. Kuma gwargwadon yadda za ka kasance tare da shi, za ka kasance cikin farin ciki. Kuma wannan shine irin abin da fim din yake. Amma, gaskiya ne cewa babu wanda ya yarda da shi a duniya, sai dai lokacin da kuka cimma Nirvana.

Kelly McNeely: Har zuwa yin fim a New Orleans, shin irin wannan koyaushe shirin ne? Ko dai kawai kun yanke shawara, kun sani, ya kamata mu yi haka a nan?

Justin Benson: An rubuta rubutun musamman don New Orleans. Zai zama babban sake rubutawa, don sanya shi a cikin wani birni daban. An rubuta shi ne don New Orleans, saboda idan kuna da irin abubuwan da suke ɓatar da lokaci, babu birni mafi kyau a Amurka da zaiyi hakan. Ban sani ba game da dokokin magunguna a wasu ƙasashe, amma ban sani ba ko akwai ko'ina ban da Burtaniya inda akwai analog ɗin analog na roba wanda aka sayar a kan kanti. Ban sani ba, a nan Kanada akwai waɗancan?

Kelly McNeely: Zuwa wani lokaci. Ba na tsammanin akwai da yawa, amma akwai abubuwan da za ku iya saya.

Justin Benson: Wataƙila kamar K1 da Spice. Ba, kamar, gishirin wanka ko komai ba.

Kelly McNeely: A'a, ba mu yi nisa ba tukuna.

Justin Benson: Na yi binciken gishirin wanka kwanan nan. Kuma ya juya cewa, kun sani, akwai lokuta kamar haka, mutumin da ya ci fuskar mutumin, amma ya nuna cewa ba shi da alaƙa da gishirin wanka. Wancan kawai mutumin da ke da tabin hankali ne. 

Kelly McNeely: So yake kawai yaci fuskar wani.

Justin Benson: Haka ne. Amma ina kusan son sani, ta yaya abin gishirin wanka ya ƙare a cikin manema labarai? 

Wa ya sani? Kuma, ta hanyar, ƙila suna da haɗari sosai, amma babu wasu takwarorinsu da suka yi nazarin littattafan likita game da duk waɗannan. Wannan shine batun kasuwar gaba daya, saboda ba'a karatunsu. Amma eh, yana da ban sha'awa. Kuma ina tsammanin akwai kamar 'yan lokuta daban-daban na wannan, inda yake kamar, oh, hakika ya kasance kome ba yi da gishirin wanka. 

Kelly McNeely: Ina tsammanin samun magungunan roba na gaske yana buɗe damar abin da zaku iya yi da wannan, saboda da gaske, idan kuna ƙirƙirar magungunan roba, za ku iya samun abin da kuke so, dama?

Haruna Moorhead: Wannan wani abu ne wanda yake da daɗi sosai, ra'ayin. Ina nufin, magungunan roba suna da gaskiya abin tsoro, saboda yana kama da siyan su daga dillalin magunguna. Dukansu basu da tsari, saidai ɗayan ya canza maganin da gangan [dariya]. Don haka yana da matukar ban tsoro!

Justin Benson: Waɗannan dillalan magungunan sun fi aminci. 

Kelly McNeely: Yanzu, Na lura cewa ku mutane da yawa suna da cikakkun bayanai, daɗaɗaɗaɗɗun sifofin da kuka samu damar wasa da su. Yaya abin yake? Motsawa zuwa ga kato - Ba na son in faɗi abin da wasu fannoni ke faruwa - amma gudu cikin filaye da abubuwa kamar haka.

Haruna Moorhead: Abu ne wanda a zahiri muke so mu yi koyaushe, saboda haka ba wani aiki ne mai wahala ba, ya kasance "godiya ga Allah, a ƙarshe mun sami yin wannan". A wasu hanyoyi, wannan matakin ya ɗan ji daɗin fahimta, saboda akwai ƙarin abubuwa masu motsi waɗanda da zarar kun kulle cikin wani abu, babu wata hanyar sauyawa, musamman idan rashin fahimta ta faru.

Amma a wasu hanyoyi, kyauta ne saboda mafi girman - mafi girma daga cikin manyan abubuwa - ya kasance mai santsi. Sun kasance wani abu ne da muka tsara gaba ɗaya. Kuma a sa'an nan mun kawai aikata shi, kuma yana da kyau. Amma abin dariya ne, saboda yan 'yan kwanaki ne kawai daga inda muke kamar haka, mutum, muna da albarkatu da yawa, duk da cewa har yanzu shine ƙaramar fim mafi ƙaranci a cikin New Orleans a wancan lokacin - har yanzu yana da ƙarami fim.

Mun kasance kamar, oh, duk sassan kwakwalwarmu da muke amfani dasu lokacin da muke yin komai, har yanzu suna kan haske. Idan za ku ɗauki MRI daga cikinmu a lokacin. Har yanzu zuciyar ku tana tunani kamar, ina mai ba da sabis ɗin bunƙasa zai tsaya? Ka sani, har yanzu yana tunanin yin gyara ne kawai a cikin kanka. Sabili da haka mun fahimci cewa gaskiya, aikin bai canza sosai ba. Kawai ainihin abubuwan zahiri waɗanda suke gaban kyamara suyi.

Kelly McNeely: Ya ku mutane da yawa a bayan fage abubuwa - edita da fim, abubuwa kamar haka. Shin kun ga cewa wannan ya fi muku kyauta? Shin ya ba ku sassauƙa da yawa, ko kuwa kun sami ƙarin damuwa? 

Justin Benson: Hanya ce kawai da za ku san yadda ake yin abubuwa. Hanyar ganowa ta zama tana yin sa - kamar sa hannayen ku datti, da gano su. Amma wannan ya ce, editan da muke aiki tare ya zama edita mafi kyau wanda muke kanmu. Amma har yanzu muna buƙatar yin kanmu kawai don gano yadda waɗannan abubuwan ke aiki mafi kyau.

Kelly McNeely: Don haka aiki tare da Jamie Dornan da Anthony Mackie, ta yaya hakan ya kasance?

Haruna Moorhead: Akwai wani wakili wanda kawai yake son fim mai zaman kansa, wanda ya ɓoye cikin binciken ƙarshe Endarshen a gidan wasan kwaikwayo na indie na Arewacin Hollywood, kuma ya sami nasara akan sa. Kuma ɗaya daga cikin abokan kasuwancinsa shi ne Jamie, kuma ya sami damar zuwa gare shi. Kuma ya zama kamar abu na kwana uku - kamar dai, daidai, bari muyi. Kuma ba zato ba tsammani, da zarar mun sami Jamie, wannan yana ɗaya daga cikin waɗannan abubuwan da za ku iya cewa, haba, su waye 'yan wasan da muke son aiki tare waɗanda suke da sha'awar yin aiki tare da Jamie. Kuma Anthony yana ɗaya daga cikinsu. Yayi sa'a, ya karanta rubutun kuma ya ba da amsa iri ɗaya. Don haka yana da sauri sosai lokacin da abin ya faru. 

Amma an rubuta rubutun a cikin 2015. Kuma har sai wannan mutumin ya yi ta yawo a cikin gidan wasan kwaikwayo, ka sani, muna yi Endarshen. Amma ee, sun kasance sun kasance masu ban mamaki. Da farko dai, kasancewar su yasa fim din ya faru. Kuma a karo na biyu, ayyukansu da halayensu daga kyamara kawai sun sanya komai cikin sauki.

Kelly McNeely: Me ku mutane kuke so game da aiki a cikin sinima na musamman? Na san wannan babbar tambaya ce. 

Haruna Moorhead: Ina son samun damar ɓoye abubuwan da muke son magana game da su a cikin kyakkyawar manufa kamar dokin Trojan. Ganin cewa idan baku da kyakkyawar ma'anar, yana iya zama mai banƙyama ko yin wa'azi na gaske. Amma a gare mu za mu iya, da fatan za mu iya yin fim wanda zai canza ku ta hanyar nishadantar da ku. Kuma kun fahimci cewa wani abu ya banbanta daga ƙarshe.

Kelly McNeely: Kuma irin magana akan wancan Trojan dokin, menene kuke son gwadawa da shiga ciki Aiki tare? Shin akwai wani abu takamaimai? 

Justin Benson: Ka sani, akwai wani mummunan motsi a cikin Amurka a yanzu don soya abin da ya gabata wanda kawai yake da kyau ga ƙaramin rukuni na yawan jama'a. Kuma wannan ya dogara ne akan tatsuniya cewa akwai wannan lokacin da ya kasance mai girma. Kuma wannan ba gaskiya bane. Kuma akwai wani abu game da ba da labari game da nuna abubuwan da suka gabata don dodo cewa.

Kelly McNeely: Babu “babba kuma”, dama?

Haruna Moorhead: Haka ne, abubuwan da suka gabata sun tsotsa, kuma yanzu abin al'ajabi ne. Waɗannan layi biyu ne a cikin fim ɗin, amma, abin da muke faɗi ke nan. 

Kelly McNeely: Menene gaba gare ku mutane? Na san yawanci kuna da tarin ayyuka akan tafi. Me kuke so ku yi a gaba?

Haruna Moorhead: Muna da wani sabon fasalin da aka rubuta, kuma tabbas zamuyi kokarin harba wannan da wuri-wuri. Da zaran wannan wannan duk yana nadewa. Kuma ina tsammanin Aiki tare tabbas zai buɗe wasu ƙofofi dangane da ainihin babban kaya. Don haka za mu gani a kan duk wannan, amma babu abin da zan iya - yi haƙuri game da rashin fahimta, amsar amsa, amma ba ma cewa ba na son magana game da shi ko kuma na rantse da ɓoyewa. Kawai idan hakan ba ta faru ba, to wannan ma ma lami ne, ka sani? [dariya]

Kelly McNeely: Yanzu tare da New Orleans, Na san yana da wadataccen wurin tarihi. Shin akwai wurare ko saitunan da kuke son haɗawa ko haskakawa da gaske? 

Justin Benson: Abin sha'awa. Ina tsammanin an rubuta wasu daga rubutun ne daga ƙwaƙwalwar tafiya zuwa New Orleans. Don haka an rubuta shi don kamar, menene waɗancan wuraren a cikin kanmu. Amma sai ni da Haruna muka je muka bincika a cikin 2016 - babu kuɗi, kawai mun tafi da kanmu da kanmu kuma mun bincika wurare don ganin abin da zai yi aiki. Kuma ya juya cewa daga ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya, waɗancan abubuwan sun kasance daidai ko lessasa daidai. Amma fa akwai abubuwan da bamu ma san sun wanzu ba yayin sanya su a rubutun, kamar inda dutse yake, misali. Wannan kawai kimantawa ce kamar haka, “wannan yana iya kasancewa saboda kogin Mississippi yana nan dama”, kuma ya zama daidai can.

Haruna Moorhead: Abun watsi da Alamu shida koyaushe yana cikin rubutun. Kuma manajan wurin namu yana ta zinare da harsasai yana kokarin tabbatar da cewa mun samu, saboda wuri ne mai wahalar harbi. Namun daji sun mamaye shi kuma yana da hadari. Amma, amma ee, ina nufin, wannan ya yi kyau. 

Justin Benson: Haka ne, kuma ina tsammanin a zahiri an rubuta wasu daga waɗannan wuraren ba kamar su ba, gidan yanar gizon Atlas Obscura, kamar “abin da baƙon abu da ban tsoro a cikin New Orleans”, da kuma gano hakan. Don haka mun yi sa'a sosai da gaske mun sami harbi a waɗancan wurare.

Kelly McNeely: Alamu shida da aka watsar da gaske abin ban mamaki ne, wannan tabbas ya kasance wuri mai sanyi don harbawa a ciki. 

Justin Benson: Haka ne, sun gaya muku cewa suna da kamar yana da wuya sosai saboda duk masu mamaye da rattlesnakes sun karɓe shi. Sai kawai na ga kamar kifi uku a can.

Haruna Moorhead: 'Yan kishin ruwa. Dalilin shi ne saboda muna da mayaƙan kada. Sun kasance fa'ida. 

Kelly McNeely: Yanzu wannan kuma tambaya ce mai fa'ida, kuma na san tsotsa da ta gabata. Amma idan ya zama dole ko za ku iya komawa kowane lokaci, za ku so, kuma yaushe kuke son komawa?

Haruna Moorhead: Kuna nufin kawai don zama a ciki, ko don faɗakar da duniya game da canjin yanayi? 

Kelly McNeely: Dukansu. Ko dai Ba ku da ku tsaya a can. Kuna iya samun minti bakwai a can.

Haruna Moorhead: Samu, samu. Mintuna bakwai. Ko.

Justin Benson: Oh, mutum. Ina ganin ba na so. 

Haruna Moorhead: Bana tsammanin nima ina so. 

Kelly McNeely: Abubuwan da suka gabata sun tsotsa. 

Haruna Moorhead:  [dariya] Haka ne. Abubuwan da suka gabata kawai tsotsa. Haka ne. Ina kawai tunani game da son komawa da zama kamar, oh, mutum. Shi ke nan. Don haka akwai farkon 2000s, kamar abin da Limp Bizkit, menene? A'a, rataya, sannan kuma kamar 90s kafada kafada? Ah! Ba zan iya tunanin lokacin da a cikin shekaru 80… A zahiri, a'a, Ina so in ga Duwatsu da gaske samari ne a yawon shakatawa. Wannan zai zama daɗi na mintina bakwai. Haka ne, kawai don jin suna wasa Gamsuwa yayin zanga-zangar a can. Hakan zai yi kyau.

 

Don ƙarin kan Justin Benson da Aaron Moorhead, duba tattaunawarmu ta baya magana game da Endarshen.