Rian Johnson ya kawo hangen nesa mai shirya fim don yin star Wars: Last Jedi. "Shi ne fim mafi girma mafi zaman kansa da aka taɓa yi," in ji shi Johnson of Last Jedi, kashi na takwas a cikin star Wars duniyar silima. “Na sami damar daukar wata hanya mai zaman kanta tare da wannan fim din, ba game da girman aikin ba, a bayyane, amma dangane da‘ yanci da aka ba ni yayin aikin rubuce-rubuce. Ba a gaya mini yadda labarin ya kasance ba lokacin da aka ba ni wannan aikin. Madadin haka, an ba ni rubutun don The Force awakens, sannan kuma na iya kallon dailies daga The Force Farkawa kafin na fara rubutu, wanda ya taimaka sosai tun Last Jedi kai tsaye yana bi The Force awakens. An ba ni ‘yanci da yawa.”

Johnson ya gina sunansa a duniyar silima mai zaman kanta, yana samun mahimman bayanai masu mahimmanci game da fina-finan Brick da kuma 'Yan Uwa Bloom. 'Yan kallo na jinsi sun san Johnson mafi kyau don na 2012 Looper, mai birgeni game da almara na kimiyya wanda ya wakilci ci gaba ga Johnson dangane da kulawar da ya samu daga dillalan ikon Hollywood. Ofayan ɗayan waɗannan masu ba da wutar ita ce Kathleen Kennedy, tsohuwar abokiyar haɗin gwiwa ta Steven Spielberg da shugaban Lucasfilm na yanzu, wanda ya ji cewa hankalin Johnson ya dace da star Wars duniya. Johnson ya ce "Da gaske ban yi tsammanin na samu dama ba," in ji Johnson. “A lokacin daya daga cikin taronmu, ta tambaye ni ko zan so in jagoranci daya daga cikin sabo star Wars fina-finai. ”

DG: Kunyi mamaki lokacin da Kathleen Kennedy ta baku dama ta jagora da rubutu The Karshe Jedi?

RJ: Ee. Na kadu. Ban yi tsammanin na kasance mai gwagwarmaya ba. Ban san cewa ina cikin jerin sunayensu ba. Na yi ganawa da Kathleen sau da yawa a cikin 'yan shekarun nan, kuma waɗannan tarurrukan sun haɗa da wasu ayyuka, kuma a ranar da ta ba ni aikin, na yi tunanin zan je taro in yi mata magana game da wani aikin. Ina tsammani na san wani abu ya tashi lokacin da na shiga ofishinta sai ta rufe ƙofar. Sannan ta tambaye ni ko ina sha'awar yi star Wars, kuma ban shirya hakan ba. Tabbas, na natsu sosai nan da nan nace eh.

DG: Me kuka kawo Last Jedi hakan ya bambanta da sauran daraktocin da wataƙila aka ba su wannan aikin?

RJ: Ko da bayan haka Looper, An dauke ni a matsayin mai fim mai zaman kanta, kuma koyaushe ina kawo tunani mai zaman kansa ga duk ayyukan da nake yi, gami da Last Jedi. A koyaushe na kan yi fina-finai na, na yi aiki da kansu, don haka ina tsammanin babban abin da ya fi damuna shi ne The Last Jedi zai kasance batun batun kwamitin shirya fim ne, wanda da zai zama abin fahimta, idan aka yi la’akari da farashin fim kamar haka amma ba zai dace da yadda nake son yin fim ba. Abin godiya, ba haka lamarin yake ba. Babban abin da ya fi damuna shi ne ban yi mummunan fim din Star Wars ba, saboda na tashi ina kallon asalin star Wars fina-finai, kuma ba na son a san ni a matsayin daraktan da ya yi mummunan aiki star Wars fim.

DG: Yaya yawan 'yancin kirkira kake da shi yayin aikin rubuce-rubuce?

RJ: The Force awakens yana yin fim lokacin da na sa hannu a kan Last Jedi, kuma saboda Last Jedi farawa kai tsaye bayan ƙarshen The Force awakens, Dole ne in kalli rubutun don The Force Farkawa a hankali, kuma ina kallon kullun The Force awakens. Da zarar na fahimta The Force awakens, An bani babban yanci dangane da yadda Last Jedi zai ci gaba da labarin. Ba a ba ni zane ba kuma an gaya mini cewa dole ne in kasance a cikin kowane yanki. Na koma San Francisco don in kasance kusa da Lucasfilm, wanda na ziyarta sau da yawa a mako. Lokacin da na sadu da masu zartarwa a Lucasfilm, na ba su ra'ayina game da yadda zan ci gaba da labarin daga The Force awakens, sannan kuma zamuyi magana game da ra'ayina. Sun kasance masu ƙarfafawa da taimako, kuma suna da kyawawan ra'ayoyi, saboda sun sani star Wars yafi kowa. Wannan ya ci gaba har na tsawon watanni biyu, sannan na fara rubuta rubutun, kuma bayan ‘yan watanni, ina da rubutun farko.

DG: Ta yaya kuka tunkari haruffa daga The Force awakens?

RJ: Na so kowane jarumi a cikin wannan fim ɗin ya sami lokacinsa, don tafiya ta musamman tafiyarsu. Luka da Rey sun fara wata tafiya mai ban mamaki a cikin wannan fim ɗin, kuma tafiyar Rey da gaske ta ba da hanyar wannan fim ɗin. Finn yana da babban tafiya a wannan fim ɗin kuma, babban halayen baka.

DG: Sannan akwai Luka da Leia. Ta yaya rashin zuwan Carrie Fisher a cikin watan Disamba na 2016 ya shafi fim ɗin da aka gama?

RJ: Hakan bai shafi fim ɗin ba kwata-kwata, ta fuskar shirya fim ɗin shi ne. A bayyane yake, wucewar Carrie zai ƙara yawan ma'anar motsin rai a cikin fim ɗin, wanda wani abu ne wanda ni, da sauran castan wasa da ƙungiya, muka dandana lokacin da muka kalli yanki fim ɗin a karon farko. Ayyukan Carrie a cikin fim din, wanda yake da ban sha'awa da ban mamaki, an kammala shi lokacin da ta mutu, kuma muna cikin aikin gyara lokacin da muka ji labarin wucewar ta. Ba mu canza komai ba game da ayyukanta.

DG: Yaya aiki tare da ita a kan abin da ya zama aikin aikin allo na karshe?

RJ: Da farko, ta kasance wata babbar hanya ce, ba wai kawai saboda tarihinta tare da Leia ba, da kuma jerin, amma kuma saboda Carrie babbar marubuciya ce, mai rubutun rubutu mai cin nasara, a karan kanta. Mun yi magana da yawa game da tattaunawa, da yadda halinta zai kasance a cikin wannan fim ɗin, kuma an sami ci gaba, kuma duk canje-canjen da ta yi a cikin tattaunawar sun sa waɗannan wuraren sun fi kyau. Carrie da Mark [Hamill] suna da, kafin mutuwar Carrie, sun rayu tare da waɗannan halayen kusan shekaru arba'in, kuma suna da kariya ga waɗannan halayen kuma suna da masaniya game da abin da masu sauraro ke da shi. Carrie, alal misali, tana da matukar damuwa game da yadda Leia ya kamata ta kasance da kuma abin da ta wakilta ga matasa mata.

DG: Kasancewar a star Wars fan farko, yana da wahala ka samu damar wucewa lokacin da kake shirin fim?

RJ: Ba shi yiwuwa a gare ni in yi la’akari da muhimmancin abin da na kasance a ciki. Akwai lokuta lokacin da nake magana da Mark, kuma zan tsaya in yi tunani, 'Wannan shine Luka Skywalker.' Amma a mafi yawan lokuta, ya juye zuwa tsari iri ɗaya wanda yake kasancewa tare da duk finafinan da na gabata. Ina jin kamar mun yi babban fim mai zaman kansa a cikin tarihin silima, kuma idan na faɗi haka, ina magana ne kan yadda kusancinmu ya kasance tare da mu duka.