Har yanzu Grinning: Tattaunawa tare da Ghastly Grinner daga 'Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu?'

Daga John Campopiano 

Tsawon shekaru Na yi ƙoƙari don bin diddigin actorsan wasa da marubuta a bayan wasu daga cikin mafi munin abubuwan mugaye na dodanni na fim dina kallon yara.

Ko dai ya kasance ɗan ƙaramin yaro ne bayan Gage Creed daga Mary Lambert's PET SAMATARY ko kuma mai banƙyama, mai tsara fasali, Pennywise the Clown, daga Stephen King's IT-fuskantar ainihin ɗan adam na gaske mutane bayan wadannan haruffa ya kasance wani nau'i na cathartic, tsoro fim far a gare ni.

Ina fuskantar haruffan da suka burge ni kuma suka tsoratani tun ina saurayi. 

Kwanan nan kwanan nan, Na nemo ƙasa Neil Kroetsch ne adam wata, Masarautar Kanada, talabijin, fim, da kuma ɗan wasan kwaikwayo na murya wanda ya kunna Ghastly Grinner a cikin sanannen labarin 1994 na shahararren jerin Nickelodeon, Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu? mai taken, "Labarin Ghastly Grinner."

Labarin ya ta'allaka ne da Ethan Wood, wani mawaƙin littafi mai ban dariya kuma mai son birgewa, wanda ya saki Ghastly Grinner ba da gangan ba - mugunta daga wani littafi mai ban dariya wanda ba shi da ikon juya mutane cikin dariya, mai lalata aljanu. Menene ba soyayya ba? 

A ƙasa tattaunawarmu game da Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu? sanannen matsayinsa na Ghastly Grinner, kuma me yasa yake tunanin labaran ban tsoro suna jan hankalin matasa. An shirya tattaunawar kuma an taƙaita shi don tsabta.

John Campopiano don iHorror.com: Sannu, Neil. Godiya ga magana da mu game da wannan mummunan abin ban tsoro daga ƙaunataccen shirin 90s, Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu? Na farko, ta yaya kuka fara rawar Ghastly Grinner? 

Neil Kroetsch: Abin farin ciki na! Da kyau, a gaskiya ina da ƙaramin matsayi, sakandare a wani labarin na Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu? kimanin shekara daya da rabi a baya - layuka 2 ko 3 ne kawai, da gaske. Na koma gida daga baya kuma ban taɓa tunanin wani abu game da shi ba.

Wata rana darakta daga wannan labarin ya kira ni ya ce, “Muna da wani abu kuma ina tsammanin wataƙila za ka zama mai kyau da shi.”

Ya tuna da ni daga wannan lokacin kuma yana so ya kawo ni in karanta wa Ghastly Grinner. Na ce tabbas, bari in ganta! Sun kawo ni don dubawa kuma mun yi magana game da sashin. Kafin na fara karanta musu sai na ce, "Idan kuna son sautin murya kawai ku fada min."

Lokacin da kuka zo daga gidan wasan kwaikwayo mafi girma shine mafi kyau, kun sani? Na gaya musu zan gwada shi ta saman-sama. Wannan kamar tsohuwar magana ce: tafi babba ko ka tafi gida. Suka ce, “Haba a’a, hakane kawai abin da wannan halin yake bukata. ” Sun yi gaskiya.

 

JC: Menene sauran kwarewar saurarar kamar? Shin kun ji kwarin gwiwa game da damar ku sau ɗaya bayan an gama?

NK: Don dubawa, sun shigo da darakta, furodusoshi, da kuma mataimakin darakta. Munyi wasa dashi kuma na tuna yin halayen Ghastly Grinner sau biyu kuma ta hanyoyi daban-daban.

Ba na tuna ainihin yanayin da suka sa na karanta, amma ina tsammanin lokacin da yaron jagora, Ethan Wood (wanda Amos Crawley ya buga) ke zana a cikin littafinsa kuma ya firgita lokacin da na bayyana kuma na faɗi wani abu kamar, “Menene al'amari, yaro?! Cat ta sami harshenka!? Hahaha! ”

Binciken ya kasance a cikin Janairu kuma sau da yawa a lokacin hutu duk muna yawan cin abinci da sha. Mai gabatarwar ya ɗan yi tsokaci, “To, ina mamakin tsoffin cikin mai wasan kwaikwayon and” sai na ce, “Oh kar ku damu, hakan zai tafi. Zan rasa wannan. ” Dukanmu mun yi dariya game da hakan! [Dariya] 

 

JC: Da yake magana game da layinsa, Ghastly Grinner ba shi da yawa a cikin lamarin. Zuciyar wasan kwaikwayon kamar tana cikin zahiri da kuka kawo masa.

NK: Hakan daidai ne. Ban yi wasan kwaikwayo ba a cikin shekaru da yawa yanzu, amma na yi wasan kwaikwayo da yawa a baya - nan ne inda na fara. Ina matukar son wasan kwaikwayo na jiki. Don haka, Ina jin daɗin ƙoƙarin sadarwa ga masu sauraro tare da wordsan 'yan kalmomi kamar yadda ya kamata lokacin da nake kan mataki. Ina tsammanin wannan hanyar ta yi aiki sosai tare da irin wannan halin wanda zai iya zama mai tursasawa tare da motsinsa kawai.

Haɗarin shine - kuma wani lokacin nakan sami waɗannan maganganun ne daga mutanen fina-finai da mutanen talabijin - shine “Tone it down. Don Allah sautin murya a ƙasa. ” Saboda wani lokacin wannan babbar hanyar na iya zama ta saman saman. Amma ga halin Ghastly Grinner, ya kasance daidai abin da aka nema.

 

JC: Ghastly Grinner ɗin dariya ɗayan ɗayan abubuwan wasan kwaikwayo ne na ɗabi'a da yanayin gabaɗaya. Ta yaya kuka sami muryarsa?

Abin da na ke so shi ne don dariya ta zama ta yanayi kamar yadda ya kamata, wanda sau da yawa abu ne mai sauki wanda aka ba shi cewa ina jin daɗin wasa sosai. Musamman a wuraren da nake tsoran yaron saboda na san nima ina yi ne ta hanyar gwatso da lumshe ido, ka sani?

An ba da ruhun wannan wasan kwaikwayon, ban kasance ainihin dodo ba a cikin yanayin tsoro na yau da kullun ba. Gabaɗaya, Ina jin daɗin aikin murya kuma nayi shi da yawa, ya zama labari ko dubing ko zane-zane. Yana da yawa fun.

JC: Sau da yawa 'yan wasan da ke yin wasan mugunta da gangan suna nesanta kansu da tauraron ɗan wasan kwaikwayo na yara don lokuta masu ban tsoro su ji da gaske a kamara. Menene wannan sashin kwarewar ya kasance kamar ku a kan "Tatsuniyar Ghastly Grinner"?

NK: Waɗannan 'yan wasan suna da gaskiya. Na yi wannan abu a nan. Ina tsammanin WC Fields ne suka ce, "Kada ku taɓa aiki tare da yara ko dabbobi" saboda abin da ba a sani ba babba ne, kun sani? A gare ni, hakika abin harbi ne mai ban sha'awa kuma saurayin da nake aiki tare, Amos Crawley, ya kasance mai girma. Ba shi da damuwa ko neman komai.

Ya kasance mai farin ciki don aiki tare. Ina jinkirin kasancewa cikin kashe fuska da wasan kwaikwayo na yara lokacin da nake wasa da mugunta saboda wani lokacin akwai layin tunani wanda bazai iya tsallakawa ba. Yana kama da, “Kai, kun kasance kuna da kyau a wurina a lokacin cin abincin rana kuma yanzu kuna zama da lahani.”

Don haka, ina tsammanin kiyaye ɗan nesa hikima ce. Yana da gaske kawai girmama juna. Zamuyi magana kadan tare da sauran yara game da wasu sassan jerin da muka gani. Amma da zarar harbi ya kare za mu iya jefa ƙwallon ƙafa a kusa ko ta yaya-amma ba yayin da muke cikin samarwa ba.

 

JC: Shin kun ɗauki lokaci mai yawa tare da ADR (bayan samarwa) sake yin rikodin daban-daban dariya Ghastly Grinner?

NK: A gaskiya, waƙoƙin dariya duk an tsince su kai tsaye. Sau da yawa za mu yi yawa. Ban taba tunanin yin biyar, shida, bakwai ba! Don haka, babu ADR-ban taɓa shiga situdiyo ba bayan harbi don sake yin rikodin.

 

JC: A cikin binciken ku da labarin na haɗu da yawancin shugabannin ku na ƙwararru. Canjin da kuka yi ya zama Ghastly Grinner ya kasance abin birgewa, kusan babu kamanceceniya tsakaninku da Grinner!

NK: Tsarin aiki ne mai tsawo, amma ƙungiyar ta kware sosai a kanta. Abin da kawai zan yi shi ne kawai in huta. Na kasance a kan wasu harbe-harbe inda dole ne su yi amfani da karuwanci wanda zai iya shafar numfashin ku kuma ya ɗauki tsayi don amfani. Amma tare da Ghastly Grinner, yawanci kayan ado ne da suttura. Ya kasance kyakkyawan zane mai kayatarwa.

Lokacin da kuka zauna a kan kujera, kun kawo halinku na musamman game da hali. Amma yayin da kake zaune a gaban madubi kuma kuna kallo yayin fuskarku ta fara canzawa: launuka, layuka, maganganu, zai fara ba ku dabaru. A gare ni, na yi tunani a cikin kaina, “Oh, shi kamar wannan terarfashin ƙasa ne daga wani wuri na duniya daban-daban tare da ƙarfi, mai kuzari ga yadda zai tunkari komai and” kuma ba zato ba tsammani za ku fara ganin halin yayin da kayan kwalliyar ke haifar muku da sabuwar fuska.

 

JC: Menene martani ga halin Ghastly Grinner da ya kasance tsawon shekaru?

NK: Na yi mamakin amsar. Kimanin shekaru shida da suka gabata wasu samari biyu a New Hampshire sun rubuto mini suna neman hoto, suna cewa abin da babban wasan kwaikwayon ya nuna musu tun suna yara. Yana da kyau ga mai wasan kwaikwayo ya sami irin wannan martani, musamman ga mai tallata rawa kamar ni wanda ba a yawan sa shi a cikin jagoranci. Anan na sami damar kasancewa mai halin jagoranci, amma kuma don fahimtar yawan mutanen da abin ya taɓa. Na ga hakan yana da amfani sosai. Ba na tsammanin ɗayanmu ya san wannan a wannan lokacin - saboda muna cikin nishaɗi kuma mun mai da hankali kan yin aiki mai kyau - amma ina tsammanin mun ƙirƙiri wani abu mai tsafi. Bob Brewster, dan wasan kwaikwayo na wannan fim wanda ya yi wasa da mahaifin Amos Crawley, John Wood, ya gaya mani a baya cewa wannan labarin na musamman shine mafi kyawun jerin. 

JC: Da yake magana daga gogewa, akwai wani abu mai ban sha'awa game da jin tsoro yayin yaro. Can baya a cikin 1980s da 1990s, akwai wadataccen abun kunya (fim, talabijin, littattafai) waɗanda aka yi musamman don ƙaramin sauraro. Me yasa kuke tunanin wasu yara suna son dodanni da abubuwan da ke cin karo da daddare?

NK: Oneaya daga cikin 'yan wasan kwaikwayo daga Ghastly Grinner ya gaya mini cewa ɗansa wanda a lokacin da muka yi wasan kwaikwayon, yana ɗan shekara 7 ko 8, yana da kwafin “The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner” kuma zai kalle shi tare da abokansa. Lokacin da halina zai fara bayyana sai su dakatar dashi kuma su buya a bayan shimfida. Amma to, za su sake dawo da wannan yanayin kuma su sake maimaita shi! Ina tsammanin ga waɗancan yara na wancan lokacin, muddin suna cikin yanayin tsari, suna son firgita saboda zasu iya sarrafa shi sannan kuma su amsa shi. Ya yi kama da lokacin da kuka ba da labarin Littlean ƙaramar Red Hood Hood ga yaro kuma ku karanta wannan ɓangaren, “Matso kusa, yaro… da ahhh!” za su yi ihu ko dariya amma kusan koyaushe za su ce, “Yi shi kuma! Karanta shi kuma! ” saboda a wancan lokacin ƙishirwarsu ga maimaita abubuwan da suke so ba shi da iyaka - suna son a tsorace su akai-akai. 

 

JC: Daban-daban dandamali masu gudana, kamar Shudder, Netflix, Amazon, da sauransu sun ba mutane damar sake gano wasannin kwaikwayo da fina-finan da suka taso tare. Menene ra'ayinku game da gadon "Labarin Ghastly Grinner" kuma Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu?

NK: Na yi farin ciki cewa kayan tarihin kanta-bidiyon, ko kuma labarin kanta kawai-yana rayuwa. Ba kamar zamanin da bane na talabijin lokacin da wani abu yake a kan wani tsayayyen lokaci kuma idan kun kama shi, yayi kyau, idan kuma ba mummunan ba.

Yanzu tare da YouTube da duk sauran waɗannan dandamali, waɗannan abubuwa suna rayuwa kuma mutane na iya komawa su sake ziyartarsu. Dangane da labarin Ghastly Grinner, ya zama kamar, Yayi, wani littafin wasan barkwanci ya rayu? Idan ka rubuta wannan a matsayin layi guda kuma ka gwada sa shi ga wani furodusa kusan koyaushe suna cewa, “Nah, bana tsammanin haka.”

Amma wannan ya yi aiki saboda yana da launuka iri-iri, yana da haruffa rubutattu, kuma yana da mugunta wanda ya sami rai daga littafin ban dariya kuma zai iya tsoratar da ku. Ina tsammanin ƙimar samarwa ta kasance mai kyau ga zamanin kuma amfani da tatsuniyoyi ya yi aiki sosai.

Marubutan akan Shin Kuna Tsoron Duhu? kamar DJ MacHale, Ron Oliver, da sauransu, suna da kyakkyawar wayewa game da ƙwarewar yara. Shekaru 7 zuwa 12, musamman, sune lokacin da kuka fara shiga samartaka kuma suka zama sanannu da manya a duniya. Da sannu-sannu zaku fara ɗaukar ƙarin nauyi amma kuma - kuma menene abin kunya game da wannan lokacin na rayuwa - kuna zama da masaniya game da matsayin jama'a: Yaya ake yi mini hukunci da takwarorina? Shin na dace? Ina jin tsoro, mara kyau. Kuma ina tsammanin marubutan da ke wasan kwaikwayon sun yi maganin abin sosai. Sun kasance haruffa waɗanda zaku iya danganta su.

Abin da na fi so game da jerin (tun da na yi kashi daya kafin wasan Grinner) shi ne yadda aka shirya yaran wasan kwaikwayo. Har sai kawai 'yan shekarun da suka gabata ban taɓa kallon labarin ba. Ba wani abu ne da yawanci nake yi ba - komawa baya don kallon wasan kwaikwayo na. Ba haka kawai wani ɓangare na ɗabi'ata ba.

Amma bayan da na fara samun wasiƙu daga magoya baya game da rawar Ghastly Grinner ina so in koma in ga idan ina da labarin a cikin demo reel. Tabbas, nayi, don haka na kalleshi. Na fahimci dalilin da yasa yara suke son shi, musamman wurin budewa inda suke zaune a kusa da sansanin kuma kowane mako suna ba da labarin daban. Yana cikin wannan ƙungiyar ta matasa inda suke jin ana ɗaukansu da gaske kuma watakila manya suna sauraro. Wannan wasan kwaikwayon ya girmama tunanin yara a wancan lokacin. Ina tsammanin wannan ya yi kira ga matasa masu sauraro.

 

JC: Bayan duk waɗannan shekarun, shin kuna mamakin gaskiyar cewa har yanzu mutane suna tunawa da magana game da halin Ghastly Grinner?

NK: Ba mu shiga cikin aikin samar da “Tatsuniyar Ghastly Grinner ba” muna tunanin, “Bari mu yi wani abin abin tunawa” ko “Wannan zai zama sihiri ne.” Ba za ku iya shirya sihiri ba, sai kawai ya faru. Ya yi kama da lokacin da kuka ga sitcoms a talabijin suna ƙoƙarin ƙirƙirar jumla don ɗabi'a. Lokuta da yawa baya aiki-sai dai ya zama mai ban haushi. Ba shi yiwuwa a yi hasashen abin da zai kasance tare da masu sauraro da abin da ba zai kasance ba. Misali, ina cikin wani fim mai suna, GRAY OWL (1999) wanda Sir ya jagoranta. Richard Attenborough, da tauraron mai suna Pierce Brosnan. A matsayina na mai wasan kwaikwayo, kai hoto, wayyo, idan zan iya yin aiki mai kyau a kan wannan, wayar za ta fara ringing kuma zan sami ƙarin aiki da zarar an sake ta. Amma abin da ya faru shi ne fim din bai taba tashi ba. Baƙon Ba'amurke ne ya ɗauke shi wanda, a cikin masana'antar fim, sumbar mutuwa ce.

Daga qarshe, Ina tsammanin koyaushe yakan zo ne ga labarin da yadda kuke fada masa, wannan shine abin da ya dace da masu sauraro. Na tuna karantawa game da 1960s mai gwagwarmaya-ya zama dan wasa, Lino Ventura, kuma da zarar wani dan jarida ya tambaye shi, "Menene girke-girke na fim mai kyau ko yanki mai kyau na wasan kwaikwayo?" Lino ya ce, "Abubuwa uku: labarin, labarin, labarin." Kuma gaskiya ne! Abin da nake so da abin da ke da kyau game da Ghastly Grinner episode shi ne cewa komai ya haɗu wuri ɗaya, rubutun ya kasance mai ƙarfi, ƙimar samarwa tana da kyau, kuma masu yin fim ɗin sun san abin da suke so da kuma yadda za su samu daga 'yan wasan su. Idan hakan ta faru yakan zama labarin da aka faɗi sosai. Kuma mutane koyaushe zasu amsa hakan.

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