Dukan Janye da Cike da Tsutsotsi - nunawa a matsayin wani ɓangare na Fantasia Taron 2022 - Babu shakka yana ɗaya daga cikin fitattun fina-finan da na ji daɗin gani. M a cikin duk hanyoyin da suka dace, yana ɗaukar masu sauraronsa a kan balaguron daji, wanda ya haifar da ikon tunani na tsutsotsi.

"Bayan gano wani ɓoye na tsutsotsi masu ƙarfi na hallucinogenic, Roscoe, mai kula da gidan otal, ya bi hanyar halaka kansa ta hanyar Chicago. Jagoran da wahayin wata katuwar tsutsa mai iyo, sai ya ci karo da Benny, wani mai sha'awar moping yana ƙoƙarin bayyana jariri daga 'yar tsana ta jima'i marar rai. Tare, suna soyayya da yin tsutsotsi kafin su fara jin daɗin jima'i da tashin hankali."

Na sami damar zama don yin magana da marubucin fim ɗin, Alex Phillips, game da yin fim ɗin, tambayar tsutsa mai ƙonewa, da kuma inda wannan fim ɗin ya fito.

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Kelly McNeely: Tambayata ta farko kashi biyu ce. Don haka, menene fuck? Kuma daga ina abin ya fito? [dariya]

Alex Phillips: [dariya] Um, me ya faru? Wannan ya fi wuya a amsa. Amma inda ya fito, da kyau, lafiya, don haka na fuskanci wasu abubuwa masu rugujewar tunani. Na shiga ta ainihin ainihin, kamar, psychosis. Kuma ya kasance mai tsanani da ban tsoro, kuma ya halaka rayuwata gaba ɗaya. Kuma ba wai don tausayi bane. Amma a nan ne zazzagewa, kuma dalilin da yasa fuck [dariya].

Lokacin da hakan ya faru, kuna da abubuwa da yawa - Ina nufin, Ina lafiya yanzu, na ɗauki magunguna da yawa da duk abubuwan nishaɗin - amma idan hakan ta faru, akwai tunani da yawa na kutse, kamar paranoia, ruɗi, hallucinations, duk abin da kyau kaya. Kuma na saba da ganin yawancin abubuwan da suka shafi tabin hankali ta hanyar tunani ta zahiri, inda wani yake, abin da ya faru da ni ke nan. Kuma suna magana ne kan yadda suka samu. Kuma wannan ba ze zama gaskiya a gare ni ba, game da kwarewata, domin ya kasance mai ban tsoro da ban tsoro. 

Don haka wannan kawai nake cewa, kamar, eh, fuck ku, rashin lafiyar hankali. Ba na so in kasance da halin kirki game da shi. Domin kuma, yana da ban tsoro ta hanyoyi da yawa, hakan bai sa rayuwata ta yi kyau ba. Kamar, ba na so in ba da labari game da shawo kan wahala, domin ya kasance, ka sani, da gaske na ɗan lokaci a can. 

Don haka, ina tsammanin wannan yana kama da gaske - tare da waɗannan rikitattun haruffa waɗanda ba lallai ba ne a so su, ba mutanen kirki ba ne - amma ina jin kamar lokacin da kuke cikin bala'in munanan abubuwa da ke faruwa, da kuma yin rikici da kwayoyi da duka. wannan sauran kayan, mutane ba lallai ba ne masu kyau. Don haka na yi tunanin cewa hakan zai zama siffa ta gaskiya.

Kuma a sa'an nan - yayin da ake gaskiya - kuma yin amfani da nau'in nau'i don sanya shi wani abu da masu sauraro za su iya shiga tare da su kuma suna so su koyi game da tafiya, kuma watakila suna da lokacin yin hakan. Domin wannan shi ne sauran abu, cewa kayan yana da hauka da ban dariya, kuma abin ban mamaki da ban tsoro a lokaci guda. 

Kelly McNeely: Da yake magana game da haruffan da simintin gyare-gyare kaɗan, na so in tambaye ku game da tsarin simintin gyare-gyare, saboda simintin gyare-gyaren duka suna da ban mamaki. Za ku iya magana kaɗan game da tsarin simintin gyare-gyare? Domin ina tsammanin akwai wata hanya ta musamman ta irin waɗannan haruffan da kuma fitar da waɗannan matsayin. 

Alex Phillips: Ee. To, yawancin mutanen da muka samu a zahiri abokaina ne kawai, suna cikin al'umma a Chicago. Kuma sun yi abubuwa da yawa na gwaji, kuma na yi aiki tare da su a baya da wasu a cikin guntun wando, ko kuma a gaba ɗaya, kamar wasan kwaikwayo, ko kuma a kusa da Chicago. 

Don haka, ina nufin, ba abu ɗaya ba ne da son ɗan wasan kwaikwayo na Hollywood da ƙoƙarin neman wanda zai yi wannan kayan. Ya kasance kamar, ka sani, wannan mutumin Mike Lopez, shine Biff, mutumin da ke cikin kayan kwalliyar kayan kwalliya kuma yana tuka motar. Shi dai kamar mai sanyi ne, mai ban mamaki na sani, ka sani? Kuma yana da ban dariya da ban mamaki da kuma yadda yake ba da layukan, don haka na kasance kamar, hey, kuna so ku kasance da kanku tare da kayan kwalliyar wawa? Kuma mun yi aiki ta yadda za mu sa abin tsoro.

Kuma haka ya kasance irin yadda yawancin wasan kwaikwayo suka yi aiki. Eva, wacce ita ce Henrietta, ba ta ma da wani gogewar wasan kwaikwayo, ta kasance kamar, mai ban mamaki. Na tambaye ta ta kasance cikin ɗaya daga cikin gajeren wando na tuntuni. Kuma sai na kasance kamar, lafiya, kana tare da ni daga yanzu, kana da girma. 

To hakan yayi yawa. Sannan Betsey Brown, wacce watakila daya ce daga cikin fitattun 'yan wasanmu, ta kasance alaka ce kawai ta wurin mutumin da ya shafi mu, Ben, ya yi aiki tare da ita a fim din. 'Yan iska. Don haka muka yi tunanin cewa za ta dace da wannan aikin, saboda yana da hauka, kuma ta shiga cikin abubuwan hauka. 

Kelly McNeely: Kuma haɗakar sauti da ƙirar sauti a ciki Dukan Janye da Cike da Tsutsotsi yana da kyau kuma. Ina son yin amfani da wannan jazz mai ban sha'awa, Ina tsammanin hakan yana da ban mamaki, irin wannan yana haifar da jin hauka a hankali, wanda ina tsammanin yana aiki daidai ga wannan fim. Na fahimci cewa kuna da gogewa ta hanyar haɗa sauti, kamar wannan wani bangare ne na tarihin shirya fim ɗinku. Za ku iya yin magana kaɗan game da yadda hakan ya zama wani ɓangare na repertoire ɗin ku? Ina tsammanin saitin fasahar fim ɗin ku? 

Alex Phillips: Ee. Um, don haka lokacin da nake yaro, ina so in zama marubuci. Kuma na gane da sauri, kamar, Ina kammala karatun, amma ba wanda zai biya ni don yin haka. Akalla ba nan da nan ba. Don haka ina so in yi aiki a kan saiti, don haka dole ne in koyi fasaha da mutane ke buƙatar amfani da su [dariya].

Don haka na koya wa kaina cakuɗewar sauti. Don haka abin da nake yi ke nan a matsayin aikina na yau da kullun, Ina yin rikodin sauti don kowane nau'in abubuwa kamar tallace-tallace, bidiyo, shirye-shiryen bidiyo, abubuwa makamantan haka. Sannan kawai dangane da ƙirar sauti da kiɗa da makamantansu, wannan koyaushe ya kasance wani abu - Ina cikin ƙungiyar makada a kwaleji da sakandare - kuma ya kasance wani ɓangare na abubuwan da nake so in yi. 

Kuma Sam Clapp Shagon Ku, shi da ni sun rataye a kusa da koleji shekaru a St. Louis, don haka mun yi irin makale tare da raba mai yawa ra'ayoyi na dogon lokaci. Don haka ya yi waƙar don wasu guntun wando da kayana, kuma daidai da Alex Inglizian na Gwajin Sauti Studio. Ni da shi mun yi aiki tare da yawa a baya. Don haka muna da kayan aiki da ilimi da yawa na kowa, kuma kawai san yadda ake yin aiki tare da juna a hanyar da za mu cire duk abubuwan ban mamaki da nemo Foley da samun sauti. 

Zan iya gaya Sam kamar, lafiya, wannan yakamata ya zama kamar Goblin, amma ƙara saxophone kuma so, riƙe shi. Ka sani? Sa'an nan kuma za mu iya gwadawa da shi kuma mu motsa shi, mu nemo abubuwan da ke aiki. 

Kelly McNeely: Ee, wannan babbar hanya ce ta kwatanta ta. Yana kama da Goblin mai saxophone. Yana da kyau, kamar, Suspiria a wasu lokuta. Kawai jefa sax sannan ku jefa wasu kaho a wurin. 

Alex Phillips: Ee, eh, mun fara Goblin. Sannan a koyaushe muna zuwa, kamar, wutar lantarki. Kuma akwai wani wuri a tsakanin can. Kuma sai muka ga kamar, akwai wanda muka kira radiyo rhythms. Wannan ya faru ne kawai saboda a Chicago, yana da sanyi sosai, kuma kowa yana da waɗannan manyan tsofaffin na'urorin ƙarfe na ƙarfe, kuma koyaushe yana kamewa saboda bushewa a wurin. Kuma abin da muke so mu yi ke nan a gidan Benny lokacin da kuka fara haduwa da shi. 

Kelly McNeely: To ta yaya wannan fim ya haɗu? Na san kun yi aiki tare da abokai da irin waɗannan, domin kuma, yana da irin wannan ra'ayin daji don yin fare. Ta yaya irin wannan ta kasance, ina tsammani? 

Alex Phillips: Ee, ina nufin, na yi ƙoƙari in bi hanyoyin gargajiya tare da yin tsalle na ɗan lokaci, kuma yana da wahala kawai in tafi daga ɗan gajeren lokaci zuwa fasalin kuma in sa ran wani ya fito daga inda ba zai so, kiwo da ku a can…

Kelly McNeely: Uwar aljana, kamar dai, ɗauki wannan kuɗin! 

Alex Phillips: Ee, eh, daidai. Kamar, oh, wannan da alama yana buƙatar dala miliyan, ga ku! [dariya] Abu ne mai wuya. Haka ne, ina nufin, abin da ya ƙare shi ne, waɗannan duk mutanen da na yi aiki da su a baya, don haka sun kasance masu sadaukarwa kuma sun kasa yin aiki. Don haka ya kasance kamar, ko dai suna da arha sosai ko kuma kyauta. Kuma duk kayan aikin kyauta ne, kuma mun sami wasu tallafi, sannan kuma bashin katin kiredit. 

Sannan kuma na yi kayan aikin bidiyo na, saboda na gama ɗauka - saboda COVID - Na ƙare ɗaukar kamar shekaru uku ko fiye da gamawa. A wani lokaci kawai na aika da kuɗin biyan kuɗi a cikin asusun don biyan wasu kaya. Sabili da haka yana kawai haɗa shi gaba ɗaya akan lokaci don yin shi. Domin aiki ne na soyayya, a wani lokaci, mun yi zurfi sosai, dole ne mu gama shi. 

Kelly McNeely: Kun yi nisa sosai, ba za ku iya komawa baya ba yanzu. 

Alex Phillips: Yeah

Kelly McNeely: Yana da irin wannan ra'ayin kamar, da zarar kun sha magungunan, kun riga kun fara tafiya, kawai ku hau shi. Dama? 

Alex Phillips: Ee, shiga cikin datti. 

Kelly McNeely: To dangane da hawan waccan tafiyar, ta yaya manufar yin tsutsotsi - ga abin da wannan babban ji yake - ya bunkasa? Yana da kuzarin da ya bambanta lokacin da kuke kallo, kuna kama da, Ina fahimtar abin da suke ji yayin da suke cikin wannan. Na dan dago kaina ina kallo.

Alex Phillips: Iya, iya. Ina nufin, hakika wannan abin ban dariya ne. Babu wanda ya tambaye ni da gaske. Amma ina tsammanin ya zo daga kamar, son yin tunani game da abin da yake kama da samun wani abu a jikin ku, kamar, motsa ku sannan kuma kamar gumi, gumi mai damuwa. Kamar dai kuna jin kamshin kowa kuma suna yawo, kuma suna buƙatar ƙari sosai. Ee, kawai ji nake kamar abin da nake tunanin ya kamata ya kasance, wannan damuwa ce kawai.

Kelly McNeely: Yana da irin wannan jin kamar, idan kuna kan namomin kaza kuma ku yanke shawarar yin DMT, kuma yana kama da, ina zan je yanzu? Me nake yi? 

Alex Phillips: Ee, eh, yana kama da hallucinogens masu sauri. 

Kelly McNeely: Menene babban kalubalen yin Duk Sun Janye Kuma Cike da Tsutsotsi? Kudade da duk wani abu, kamar a zahiri, kamar yin fim?

Alex Phillips: Ee. Ina nufin, yana da wahala sosai, saboda ya yi tsayi sosai. Akwai kamar da yawa. Abubuwa da yawa a wurin sun kasance masu tauri [dariya]. Eh, ba ɗaya daga cikin abokan aikina ba ne, tabbas. Kowa yayi kasa sosai. Ina nufin, COVID ya yi girma. Domin COVID ya rufe mu. Mun fara harbi a cikin Maris 2020, kafin COVID ya wanzu. Sannan mun samu kwanaki tara a cikin shirin, kuma a lokacin ne aka sanar da barkewar cutar ta duniya. 

Sun jawo mana izini, gidan gear da ke ba mu duka kayan aikin ya ce a sake motar motar zuwa nan, saboda muna buƙatar kyamararmu baya da duka. Haka aka yi. Ina tsammanin wannan shine bangare mafi wahala. Sannan kamar yadda ake gano yadda ake gama wannan fim din kafin a samu alluran rigakafi da kaya, da kuma yadda ake bin COVID ba tare da wani kasafin kudi na kowanne daga ciki ba, kuma a kula da juna da kuma shawo kan shi.

Don haka muka harbi kwana biyar a lokaci guda, kuma muka ɗauki makonni biyu tsakanin kowane hutu. To, eh, duk wannan. Babu gidan samarwa, babu ofishin samarwa, ka sani, kamar ni ne da Jojiya (Bernstein, Producer). Babu AD. Don haka shi ne kawai wannan, da gaske. Ee, mafi wahala game da shi, babu PAs [dariya]. 

Kelly McNeely: Kamar dai sake, rarrafe cikin wannan datti [dariya]. A matsayinka na mai shirya fim, mene ne ya zaburar da kai ko tasiri?

Alex Phillips: Eh, akwai abubuwa biyu daban-daban, manyan abubuwa biyu. Ɗaya shine gwaninta na sirri da kuma kasancewa mai gaskiya ga kaina, ko muryata, ko kawai ra'ayi na. Sannan ɗayan yana kama da, Ina son fina-finai. Ina kama da wani katon majigi, ka sani, ina kallon su koyaushe. Amma ba wai kawai na yi wani abu mai ra'ayi wanda ke tattare da kawai, kamar, wanda aka ja daga tarin kaya ba. Ina so in yi amfani da duk waɗannan abubuwan azaman harshe kuma in yi magana da su kawai. Faɗa mini gaskiya ta wannan harshe, idan hakan ya ba da ma'ana. 

Kelly McNeely: Lallai. Kuma a matsayinka na dan fim, kuma bayan kallon wannan fim din, na san wannan tambaya ce mai ban tsoro da za a yi, amma menene fim din da kuka fi so?

Alex Phillips: Ina nufin, to, amsa mai sauƙi a gare ni, da kyau, agh! Ba abu ne mai sauki ba. Wani ya tambaye ni wannan a baya, na ce Kashe-kashe na Sarkar Texas, amma zan ajiye wancan gefe. Kuma wannan lokacin, zan ce Abu. John Kafinta Abu. 

Kelly McNeely: Kyakkyawan, kyakkyawan zaɓi. Kuma sake, kasancewa babban cinephile da kanka, kuma kawai saboda son sani, menene mafi ban mamaki ko irin mafi kama… menene fim ɗin fuck da kuka gani?

Alex Phillips: Ina matukar son wannan fim din, na Fulchi Kada A azabtar da Gwaggo a yanzu, wancan yana da gaske, da gaske m. Akwai abubuwa da yawa da ke faruwa. Ban sani ba ko mafi ban mamaki ne. Ina nufin, kamar, zan iya cewa, kamar wani abu ta Larry Clark, ko kamar Shara Humpers ko wani abu makamancin haka yana da ban mamaki. Ban sani ba. Duk suna da ban mamaki. Amma eh, Fulchi koyaushe yana da kyau. 

Kelly McNeely: Kuma dole in yi tambaya, kuma tabbas an yi muku wannan tambayar a baya, amma ko akwai tsutsotsi da aka yi wa illa wajen shirya wannan fim? 

Alex Phillips: A hakika mun yi taka-tsan-tsan da wadannan kananan yaran. Haka ne, ba na so in gaya muku yadda ba mu ci su ba, amma ba mu ci su ba. 

Kelly McNeely: Ina mamakin duk lokacin, wannan shine gelatin, ko me ke faruwa?

Alex Phillips: Dukkansu na gaske ne. Kuma dukansu za su ba ku girma sosai. 

Kelly McNeely: To me ke gaba gare ku? 

Alex Phillips: Ina da wannan batsa mai ban dariya wanda zan harba shekara mai zuwa. Ana kiransa Duk Wani Abu Da Yake Motsawa game da wannan matashi, bebe mai zafi. Yana da irin Channing Tatum, amma shi kamar, 19. Kuma shi ne mai bayarwa na keke, amma kuma shi ne irin sayar da jikinsa a gefe a gaske norturing hanya. Yayin da yake kai abinci ga mutane. Kun sani, idan UberEATS mutumin ku Timothy Chalamet ne, kuma gigolo. Wannan shine irin ra'ayin. 

Sannan ya kama shi a cikin wannan mahaukaciyar mai ban sha'awa, duk abokan cinikinsa sun tashi da kisan gilla. Don haka wannan yaron da ya riga ya kasance a kan kansa yana kama da, a cikin hanya mai zurfi, kuma ya kamata ya gano abin da ke faruwa kuma ya ceci abokan cinikinsa waɗanda ya damu da su. Sa'an nan kuma, ka sani, yana da hannu kuma duk wannan, yana so ya gano abin da ke faruwa.

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Don ƙarin akan Fantasia Fest 2022, latsa nan don karanta hirarmu tare da Yanayin duhu darekta Berkley Brady, ko karanta sharhinmu na Rebekah McKendry's Mai girma