Wataƙila ba ku san sunansa ba, amma tabbas za ku san fuskarsa. Julian Richings babban jigon fim ne da talabijin, tare da matsayi a ciki Ernan allahntaka, Cube, mayya, almara na birni, Mutum na ƙarfe, alloli na Amurka, Channel Zero, Hannibal, Ba daidai ba Juya, da ƙari da yawa. Actoran wasan Burtaniya (yanzu yana zaune kuma yana aiki a Kanada) yana da ƙaƙƙarfan tunanin jiki wanda ya kawo shi ga kowane matsayi, yana ɗaukar kowane ɓangare cikakke kuma yana ba su hankalinsu na gravitas. Ya kasance ɗan wasa mai ban sha'awa wanda ke fice a kowane yanayi, komai girman ɓangaren. 

Kwanan nan na zauna da Richings don yin magana da shi game da horar da shi a matsayin ɗan wasan kwaikwayo, da kuma rawar da yake takawa a wasan da aka fitar Wani abu don Jackson da fandare dutse gladiator showdown kayayyakin gyara.

Kelly McNeely: Kun kasance kuna da irin wannan aikin sosai a cikin fim da talabijin a nan Kanada. Ta yaya kuka fara? Kuma shin an fi jan hankalin ku zuwa aiki a cikin salo?

Julian Richings: Ta yaya na fara… Ina tsammanin koyaushe ina kasancewa ɗan wasan kwaikwayo. Ni dan dangi ne na tsakiya, kuma ina da kanne biyu - daya gefen ko wanne bangare na - kuma koyaushe nakan ji kamar yarinya, ni ne wanda zai so… Zan zama daban da kowane dan uwa, zan zama daban da kowa da kowa. 

Ina da wani babban yaya wanda kuma yake da wata fasaha ta kirkirar mahalli, ya zama mai zane-zane, kuma ya kan gina muhalli a bayan gidanmu. Kuma yana buƙatar wani ya cika waɗannan mahalli, kamar mai kiran ringi a wajan dawarorin sa, da kuma fatalwa ga gidajen sa da abubuwan sa, don haka… ku san wanda yayi hakan. Sabili da haka koyaushe na yi aiki, koyaushe ina jin daɗin aiki sosai. 

Kuma a wasu hanyoyi, yin aiki yana ba ni damar kasancewa kowane nau'in halayen halayen da ba zan taɓa rayuwa ta ainihi ba. Kamar, a koyaushe ina sane da yadda ni talakawa ne. Ka sani, mutane sun tafi, Oh, Allahna, kun yi wasa da mutumin! Mutuwa ne daga Allahntaka! Kuma ina son in ce, To, an ba ni izinin zama haka, amma ba kwa son ku san ni a wajen fina-finai. Don haka, ya, kuma akwai sassa biyu ga tambayarku! Nau'i.

Kelly McNeely: Shin kun fi dacewa da jinsi?

Julian Richings: Da kyau, ina tsammanin kwayoyin ne. Ina tsammanin hakan, kun sani, an faro shi ne tsawon shekaru, nau'in ɓangarorin da na taka leda. Ba da yawa a wasan kwaikwayo ba, na girma a wasan kwaikwayo, na yi horo a wasan kwaikwayo, na yi wasan kwaikwayo, sannan kuma a hankali na zama fim da talabijin. Kuma yayin da nake yin wasan kwaikwayo, na fara yin tallace-tallace don haɓaka kuɗin shiga na. Kuma duk tallace-tallacen sun kasance sun kasance marasa kyau, geeky, m haruffa. Saboda, ka sani, lokacin da kake kasuwanci, ban kasance uba na yau da kullun ba, ko, ka sani, kyakkyawan mutum mai cikakken hakora. Na kasance koyaushe baƙon mutum, mai haɗari. Kuma wannan babu makawa a cikin fim da talibijin, saboda yana da matsakaiciyar hanya. Don haka irin rawar da na taka sun kasance masu fitowa ne da baƙi da nau'ikan ban tsoro. Don haka yana da nau'ikan kwayoyin. 

A cikin wasan kwaikwayo, Na fi sauran fannoni da yawa, amma na rungumi komai. Kuma koyaushe ina ƙoƙarin yin allurar abubuwa daban-daban ga duk haruffan da nake takawa, don haka ban tsayar da su da kasancewa ba, oh, wannan rawar tsoro ce. Kamar idan rawar rawar tsoro ce, zan gwada gabatar da ɗan Adam ko kuma idan na yi wasa da wani sarki mara kyau, zan yi ƙoƙari in yi allurar rashin ƙarfi, kun san abin da nake nufi? Don haka, a wurina, kamar, ban sani ba, kawai ba makawa, ina tsammani.

Kelly McNeely: Kuma yanzu kuna magana game da mugayen haruffa, kun kunna 'yan iska a ciki kayayyakin gyara kuma kwanan nan a Murnar Cin Duri, kuma mafi halayyar ɗabi'a mai kyau a cikin Wani abu don JacksonWaɗanne irin matsayi ne da gaske ke birge ku a matsayin ɗan wasan kwaikwayo?

Julian Richings: Babu matsayi da yawa da ban je ba, oooh, wannan abin ban sha'awa ne. Ba ni da ma'anar girman. Ba ni da wani ra'ayi ko nuna bambanci, in ce, da kyau wannan ba babban yanki ba ne a gare ni. Oh, wannan ya yi karami kaɗan, ko kuma ma dannawa. Ina son labarai Ina son tatsuniya Kuma ina son kasancewa cikin labarin. Kuma wani lokacin wannan yana buƙatar wani abu mai ƙanƙanci da ƙarfi. Kuma wani lokacin wani abu ne wanda aka baza akan babban baka. 

Don haka yana da wahala in rarrabe. Ya yi kama, kun sani, akwai waɗancan masks ɗin gargajiya waɗanda ke wakiltar wasan kwaikwayo. Akwai abin rufe fuska mai ban dariya don ban dariya, kuma akwai abin rufe fuska don masifa. Abu ne mai matukar wahala in raba su biyun, ina tsammanin duk wata masifa, akwai abin dariya kuma akasi. Kuma irin rawar da zan taka. Don haka ina son hada shi, Ina matukar jin dadin kasancewa karamin bangare na labarin, kuma ina farin cikin dauke babban labarin. Don haka ban irin tafiya ba, alright, fim na gaba, Ina so in zama wannan ko wancan. 

Ina tsammani yayin da na tsufa, Ina farin cikin irin fushin da kowa yake da shi game da abinda tsofaffin haruffa ke yi. Don haka yayin da na tsufa, Ina farin ciki da yi wasa da haruffa masu iko, saboda a al'adunmu, muna yin watsi da tsufa a matsayin wani abu wanda, kun sani, an daina rubuta shi. Don haka wannan wani abu ne mai kyau wanda nake fara farawa da shi.

Kelly McNeely: Haka ne, tabbas kun ga wannan da yawa a ciki Wani abu don Jackson. Ina son wannan ra'ayin cewa maimakon, kun sani, waɗannan yaran suna karanta wannan littafin kuma suna kiran aljanu, wannan tsofaffin ma'auratan ne, kuma ya kamata su san mafi kyau, amma suna yin hakan. Kuma ina matukar son hakan. 

Ina tunanin ko zaku iya yin magana kaɗan game da rikitarwa na ɗabi'a Wani abu don Jackson, saboda yana da matukar kusanci da tsarin yin garkuwa da mutane. Akwai duk wannan ra'ayin cewa yana yi wa matarsa, yana yi wa danginsa, ya san cewa watakila ba lallai ba ne abin da ya dace ya yi. Amma duk ba daga aikin soyayya ba.

Julian Richings: Babu shakka, kun buge shi daidai. Ina tsammanin abin da ke da ban mamaki da tashin hankali game da fim din shi ne cewa mutane biyu ne suka sadaukar da kansu ga juna, amma suna raba mummunan baƙin ciki da mummunan bala'i. Kuma don sauƙaƙa wannan baƙin ciki, suna neman su ba da damar juna, kuma ayyukan da suke yi ba shi da afuwa, amma suna yin hakan ne da sunan soyayya, da kare ɗayan. Don haka ta hanyoyi da yawa, sun karkatar da alhakin daga kansu. Kuma ina tsammanin wannan wuri ne mai matukar wahala da ban sha'awa don fim ya zauna. 

Yanzu, a matsayinmu na yan wasa, Sheila da ni kaina muna aiki tare sosai, kamar muna da ilmin sunadarai sosai, kuma kawai munyi mutuncin dangantakar da ke tsakanin mutane biyu. Kuma mu, ina tsammanin, mun kawo masa kwarewarmu. Mu duka biyu munyi sa'a munada dangantaka mai tsawo. Sabili da haka mun yi ƙoƙari mu kasance masu gaskiya game da alkalai da abubuwan raba hankali na yin dangantaka mai dogon lokaci, ka sani, kuma wannan nau'ikan raye-raye masu ban dariya waɗanda zasu iya shigowa ciki kuma.

Kelly McNeely: Babu shakka. Kuma akwai, tabbas, sacewa a ciki kayayyakin gyara haka nan, wanda ke da nasa nau'ikan nau'ikan abubuwan rikitarwa da kuma mummunar manufa.

Julian Richings: Haka ne, Ina nufin, a fili ya fi fitowa fili, matattara, ba fim-fursunoni irin fim. Abin da nake so game da shi, abin da gaske ya kerawa a cikin wannan wani nau'i ne na ɓarna na fandare. Akwai wani irin ƙarfi, kuma akwai ma'anar cewa matan ba sa farin cikin kasancewa, ka sani, abubuwa na musamman. Ka sani, dole ne su yi gwagwarmaya kan hanyar su ta samun yanci. Kuma irin wannan yana da kuzari a gare shi, da kuma dutsen da birgima irin tashin hankali. Kuma wannan abin farin ciki ne. Bambanci sosai. ,Warai, nau'in makamashi daban. 

Kelly McNeely: Bambancin yanayi tsakanin fina-finan biyu. Yanzu, Ina farin cikin jin kun yi magana sosai game da wasan kwaikwayo. Shin zaku iya yin magana kaɗan game da horarwar ku da kuma tarihin ku a wasan kwaikwayo kuma idan hakan na iya ba da gudummawa ga jinsi, har ya zuwa ga ainihin mawuyacin halin da kuka samu a waɗancan halayen? 

Julian Richings: Ee, yana da. Yana da mahimmanci a rayuwata. Don haka na girma na yi horo a Ingila. Amma na girma ne a cikin wani lokaci lokacin da tsohon tsarin Ingilishi, kamfanonin wasan kwaikwayo na mako-mako, da gidajen wasan kwaikwayo na yanki ke lalacewa kuma ba mu da sauran dacewa. Don haka akwai wani sabon nau'in igiyar ruwa na wasan kwaikwayo na gari inda mutane zasu yi a wuraren da ba na gargajiya ba. Na yi a wuraren shakatawa, a ƙarshen kwale-kwalen, a bakin rairayin bakin teku, a gidajen tsofaffi - ra'ayin shi ne a kai wa mutane wasan kwaikwayo. 

Sabili da haka akwai ma'anar - a cikin 70s, a Ingila - cewa tsohon tsarin bai dace ba kuma, tare da zuwan talabijin da fina-finai, cewa gidan wasan kwaikwayo na gargajiya ya canza. To anan ne na shiga gidan wasan kwaikwayo, shekarunda na fara kwarewa a can suke, sannan kuma nayi horo a matsayin mai wasan motsa jiki, ba kamar yawancin makarantun wasan kwaikwayo na Burtaniya ba, wadanda suka kware sosai a tsohuwar makaranta. 

An horar da ni sosai a hanyar Grotowski. Ya kasance guru na Poland na lokacin, wanda yayi magana game da ƙirƙirar gidan wasan kwaikwayo na jiki na ciwo da ƙeta inda aka kusan horar da actorsan wasan kwaikwayo kamar masu rawa, suna da wani yanayi na zahiri game dasu. Kuma a zahiri, wannan shine dalilin da ya sa na ƙare a Kanada, shine cewa wasan kwaikwayon da nake ciki wani irin salon magana ne da yawa, nuna al'adu daban-daban wanda ya tafi Turai, yawon shakatawa zuwa Turai, ya je Poland, ya zo Kanada, ya yawon shakatawa. Don haka sai na gano Toronto kuma - dogon labari - amma na ƙare a Toronto. Amma ra'ayin shine cewa jikina don yin aiki koyaushe yana wurin. Kuma na daidaita shi daga gidan wasan kwaikwayo zuwa fim da talabijin. 

Amma koyaushe ina da yanayin jiki a cikin halayena. Ina nufin, ba da gangan ba, amma akwai a can, saboda yana da asali a cikin horo na. Don haka ko da da fuskata ne, ko kuma tare da kwayar idanuna, ko kuma shin, kun sani, ina wasa da wata halitta kamar Yatsa Uku a ciki Kuskuren Juyawa, ko Mutuwa a ciki Allahntaka. Abin da ke da mahimmanci a wurina shi ne yanayin jiki gabaɗaya. Kuma da wannan ba haka nake nufi ba, kun sani, kamar, kawai ƙoƙarin zama babba da ƙarfi da tauri. Ba haka bane. A'a, akwai wani irin zurfin zuwa gare shi wanda ya zo daga jiki. 

Kelly McNeely: Yana da ɗan finesse na zahiri.

Julian Richings: Haka ne. Kuma abubuwa kamar wasan kwaikwayo na gargajiya, a zahiri ba irin salo bane wanda na san shi sosai, ka sani, kalmar gargajiya da ake magana da Ingilishi tana wasa. Ba wani abu ne da kuka sani ba, inda haruffa ke tsayawa suna shayi suna tattaunawa kuma suna tattaunawa game da ra'ayoyi. Ban kware sosai a irin wannan gidan wasan kwaikwayo ba. Abin tsoro, kuma babban fim din operatic, kamar kayayyakin gyara, hakika ya dace da ni sosai. 

Kelly McNeely: Don haka wannan na iya zama wata babbar tambaya ce. Amma menene mafi girman farin ciki da / ko ƙalubalen aiki?

Julian Richings: Oh, gosh. Wani sashi ne na, ka sani? Ya kasance koyaushe. Ina tsammani duka, yana da yanayin shigewa. Saboda koyaushe dole ne ku kasance a wannan lokacin, dama? Abin birgewa ne kwarai da gaske wajen bayar da labarin, lallai ne ka tsunduma a cikin hakan ba zai iya zama wani bangare na kwakwalwarka ba, kai, ina matukar jin daɗin ririta kayan ka. Ko, Ina cikin iko, ko wanene ni? Abin dariya, wannan muryar a cikin kanku ba zata kasance a wurin ba, dole ne ku kasance cikin ta. Don haka don zama kamar wannan, dole ne ku kasance cikin yanayin yanayin rauni, ina tsammanin, da wadatarwa zuwa wannan lokacin. 

Kuma hakan yana da matukar wahala. Yana da matukar wahala zama mai sauki da budewa da kuma rashin daidaito. Sabili da haka, binciken hakan, yana buƙatar tsauri. Kuma yana buƙatar rayuwa ba ta taɓa zama mai gamsarwa ba, da gaske. Yanzu, ba na jin daɗin hakan. Ina tsammanin wannan shine yadda nake rayuwa. Zan iya yin rayuwa ta a kafa na na gaba. A koyaushe ina irin motsawa, Ina sa mutane mahaukaci saboda ba zan iya ci gaba da nutsuwa ba, Kullum ina cikin masu saurare, masu amsawa. 

Amma shine babban farin cikina wanda nake jin shi wani bangare ne na rayuwa. Amma kuma yana da ɗan girma ma, saboda babu zaman lafiya. A matsayina na 'yar wasan kwaikwayo, ba zan iya zama cikin nutsuwa ba. Ba zan iya ba Ko a lokacin COVID ban taba samun damar zama na rubuta babban littafina ko rubuta tunanina ba, ko kuma na yi yawa a kafata ta gaba ina sauraren wasu mutane da kuma yin tunanin abin da suka ba ni. Ina fatan hakan ya amsa. Yana da sauti kamar ɗan ƙarami, amma yanayin tunani ne. Ina tsammani yanayi ne wanda nake tsammanin dole ne kuyi kokarin kiyayewa.

 

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