Jaridar sabon abu ne, kashi shida, tsawan awa, jerin kayan tarihin ban tsoro na Asiya daga HBO Asia. Kowane ɗayan darasi ne ke taimaka masa kowane ɗayan kuma ya dogara da tatsuniyoyi da camfe-camfe a cikin ƙasashe shida na Asiya.

Wanda aka kirkireshi kuma aka kirkireshi ta hanyar wanda yaci kyautar fim dan Singapore, Eric Khoo (wanda kuma yake jagorantar ɗayan sassan), Jaridar fasali fasali na Joko Anwar (Halfworlds, Bayin Shaidan) daga Indonesia, Takumi Saitoh (Blank 13, Ramen Teh) daga Japan, Lee Sang-Woo (Barbie, Wuta A Cikin Wuta, Soyayyar Datti) daga Koriya, Ho Yuhang (Karnukan Rain, Mrs. K) daga Malaysia, da Pen-Ek Ratanaruang (Waƙar Samui, Karshe Rayuwa a Duniya) daga Thailand.

A matsayina na TIFF, na sami damar zama tare da daraktoci guda biyu - Pen-Ek Ratanaruang da mai gabatarwa / darekta Eric Khoo - don yin magana game da ƙirƙirar wasan, jigogi game da tsoratarwar Asiya, da kuma kyawawan al'adun gargajiya waɗanda ke ciyarwa. cikin tsoronmu.

Kelly McNeely: Tare da shahararrun tarihin gargajiya, abin birgewa ne wannan zai kasance - Na fahimta - jerin shirye-shiryen TV na tsoffin tarihi na Asiya. Eric, ta yaya kuka inganta ra'ayi ko ma'anar jerin?

Eric Khoo: A koyaushe na kasance ɗan sha'awar The Twilight Zone, kuma ina son finafinai masu ban tsoro. Mahaifiyata ta sa ni cikin tsoro lokacin da nake ɗan shekara shida. A Asiya, muna son babban labari. Na tuna Pen-Ek, mun kasance a Patong (Thailand) tare shekaru da yawa da suka gabata, kuma muna wasa game da yadda ya kamata mu yi abin tsoro tare.

Yana da wannan mahaukacin tunanin yin shimfida mai ban tsoro, kamar shimfida wacce zaka zauna sai ta cinye ka. Sabili da haka lokacin da HBO ya matso kusa damu don samar da jerin abubuwa… [a raha] Na san wuri guda wanda za a iya yi don kuɗi kaɗan [duka dariya]. Na tattaro waɗannan daraktocin da nake girmamawa daga Asiya, kuma na ce, kun san “bari mu yi wani abu tare”. Don haka ya kasance kwayoyin halitta.

Na yi magana da Pen-Ek - saboda ba na son in rasa shi (don tsara rikice-rikice) - kuma na yi matukar farin ciki cewa HBO Asiya ba ta shiga ciki da yawa ba, kamar, Pen-Ek's duk suna da baƙi da fari [ ba'a izgili, dariya]. Amma abin farin ciki ne, wannan ya samo asali ne.

Abu daya da nafi so nayi shine bashi dashi cikin yaren Ingilishi - saboda zai zama abin dariya, kun sani, kasancewar Thai yana jin Turanci, ko Jafananci yana magana da Ingilishi. Don haka an ba su izinin kiyaye shi duka a cikin yarensu na asali, kuma ina tsammanin wannan ya yi kyau sosai, saboda duk ƙungiyoyi daban-daban daga sassa daban-daban na Asiya sun hau jirgi a matsayin naúrar.

Kelly: Pen-Ek, menene ya ja hankalinka zuwa ga aikin… ban da Eric? [dariya]

Pen-Ek Ratanruang: Ya yi mani imel kuma ya gaya mani yana yin wannan abu tare da HBO kuma yana so in shiga ciki. Ban taba yin abin tsoro a rayuwata ba! Ina son tsoro, amma ban san yadda zan yi ba. Na tambaya nawa zanyi in bada amsa sai yace sati daya. Don haka na ce, ok, nan da 'yan kwanaki masu zuwa idan ina da ra'ayi, zan ce eh, amma idan ban yi ba, zan ce a'a.

Ina da wannan ra'ayin na fatalwa - maimakon ɗaukar wanda aka azabtar, fatalwar ta zama wanda aka yiwa halin. Kuma ban taɓa tunanin wannan ba. Don haka, na yi tunanin wannan labarin kuma da gaske ban da gabatarwa ko ra'ayi, kun sani, amma kawai… ya ce, zan yi.

Eric: Labari ne mai kyau na fatalwa. Ba ku taɓa ganin irin wannan a da ba.

Kelly: Yana lalata tunanin labarin fatalwarku, kuma ina son hakan! Idan ana maganar almara da tatsuniyoyi, waɗanne labarai ne tun lokacin da kake saurayi da gaske suke tsoro ko suka yi tasiri a kanka?

Eric: A gare ni shi ne Pontianak - vampire na mata. Tana lalata da maza kuma tana cin waɗannan mutanen, kuma tana son cin jarirai ma. Don haka irin wannan ya firgita ni. Akwai wata bishiyar ayaba wacce ba ta da nisa da inda na sauka, sai mahaifiyata ta gaya min cewa idan ka sanya ƙusa a cikin wannan bishiyar da zare, kuma ka sa zaren a ƙarƙashin matashin kai, za ka yi mafarkin ta . Don haka zan cire ƙusa. [dariya]

Kuma Pontianak ya shahara sosai a kudu maso gabashin Asiya. Don haka kuna ganin an kira ta Kuntilanak, amma sau da yawa za su ce Matianak, don haka akwai maganganu daban-daban, ku sani? Ɗayan da irin wannan ya same ni - kuma wannan ya aikata ta (Jaridar's) Daraktan Malesiya, Ho Yuhang - ana kiransa Toyol. Toyol shine fatalwar jariri. Don haka idan cikin da aka zubar da ciki, ka dauki tayi ka yi masa addu'a, zaka iya sanya shi a cikin ko dai halin mugunta ko kuma kyakkyawan ruhu. Idan kyakkyawan ruhu ne, zai taimake ka da sa'a. Don haka akwai mai duhu kuma mai kyau.

Kelly: Kowace ƙasa tana da nasu jigogi a cikin tsoro waɗanda ke da alaƙa da tarihin al'adu da abubuwan da suka faru. Misali, fatalwowi na Japan suna da alaƙa da almararsu, alhali a Amurka, ya fi game da mallaka da aljannu waɗanda ke da alaƙa da rayuwar su ta asali. Shin zaku iya yin magana kaɗan kan shahararrun jigogi a cikin finafinai masu ban tsoro daga Singapore da Thailand, kuma wataƙila inda waɗancan jigogin ko ra'ayoyin suka fito daga al'adu?

Eric: Abinda yakamata shine, a cikin Singapore, ƙasa ce da ta haɗu da baƙi. Sinawa suna wurin kimanin shekaru 100 da suka gabata, amma kafin hakan Malesiya ce. Kuma Malay suna da tatsuniyoyi da yawa. Don haka Pontianak daga Malas ne. Toyol shima dan Malas ne, amma Pontianak yafi kama da ɗan shaidan. Yawancin labaran gargajiya daga Singapore - almara na gargajiya - sun fito ne daga tatsuniyar Malay. Don haka akwai Malesiya da yawa a nan, da Bruneis, da Philippines a nan, akwai ƙungiya mai haɗuwa da gaske.

Pen-Ek: Tare da Thailand kuna da famousan shahararrun fatalwowi, amma… Bana jin tsoron fatalwowi. Ba na jin tsoro - Ban taɓa saduwa da ɗaya ba. Amma mun harbe labarin na (Pob) a cikin rudani, asibitin fatalwa, da kowa da kowa a cikin ma'aikatan - sun ga wani abu -

Eric: Kuma kun kasance ba ku nan! [dariya]

Pen-Ek: Ina tsammanin ya fi samun wahayi daga fim din fatalwa, maimakon fatalwowi na ainihi. Kuma a cikin silima na Thai - al'ada ce da ta fi dacewa a cikin fina-finan fatalwa da labaran fatalwa - dole ne ta kasance da nishaɗi. Babu shakka yana da ban tsoro ma, amma, dole ne ya sami haske. Amma fim ne mai ban tsoro. Kamar fatalwa ya kamata ta tsorata da mutum, misali… to mutumin zai iya bin fatalwar.

Lokacin da kuka yi fim mai ban tsoro - fim na ban tsoro na Thai - mutumin zai gudu daga fatalwa, don haka za mu gan shi yana guduwa, sannan wani fim mai ban tsoro na yau da kullun, za su yi tsalle zuwa cikin babban gilashi sannan su manna wuyansu [mimes the action]… dole ne ya zama tana da irin wannan abu.

Ko kuma kamar, wani yana tsoron fatalwa don haka suna tafiya a baya, kuma suna ci gaba suna tafiya baya suna kallon sama kuma yana kama da “yi… yi… yi…!” [mimes abin mamaki]. Don haka na yi tunani, to zan iya yin wani abu kamar mean Ina nufin ba haka ba ne, amma kusan zan iya daukar fim dina haka, zan iya sanya shi abin dariya ma.

Kelly: Dama, ƙara ɗan sauƙi a gare shi.

Pen-Ek: Ba cikakken wasa bane amma, kuna da wannan al'adar a cikin fina-finan ban tsoro na Thai. Kuna da wannan al'adar wasan kwaikwayo da ban tsoro.

Kelly: Don haka wannan al'adar ta barkwanci da walwala, daga ina kuke tsammanin hakan ya fito? Ta yaya aka tara wancan a cikin silima mai ban tsoro na Thai musamman?

Pen-Ek: Saboda ana yin fina-finan ban tsoro a cikin Thailand ne kawai don nishaɗi. Ya kamata a nuna shi ga mutane daga ko'ina cikin duniya. A sassan kasar, matakin ilimi ba zai yi yawa ba, don haka komai na bukatar fadada. Ya kamata wasan kwaikwayo ya zama mai faɗi sosai. Amma ina tsammanin yana da wayo sosai, saboda idan kuna yawan dariya kuma ba zato ba tsammani wani lokaci mai ban tsoro ya zo, ya zama gaske ban tsoro! Na tuna ganin irin wadannan fina-finai lokacin da nake matashi, na tuna galibi wasan barkwanci ne - amma sassan ban tsoro suna ba ka mamaki har ka tuna da su. Kuna tuna wannan girgiza.

Kelly: Ba zaku taɓa tsammanin hakan ba lokacin da kuke dariya, daidai?

Pen-Ek: Haka ne, daidai. Dabara ce mai kyau!

Kelly: Akwai babban daidaitawa tare da ban tsoro da ban dariya, ginin tashin hankali da sakin fuska tare da fara'a… akwai irin wannan ƙwanƙwasa da gudana wanda ke taimakawa wajen gina wannan tasirin, wannan ƙyallen adrenaline.

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